People don’t “like him for it” they like him despite it. Just because people like an unlikable person doesn’t mean they like everything about him.

From context clues it seems like they were hosted on Lemmy which is why they are now limiting image hosting.

Their point is that they agree with you 100% on slavery, but this isn’t slavery.

Why are 50 percent of prisoners minorities?

Because the system is racist and bad and minorities are disproportionately imprisoned. Nobody here is arguing against that. They are just pointing out that if 50% of the “enslaved” are white, that is a different sort of thing than the race-specific enslavement of black people. Things can be not-literal-slavery while still being bad.

What happens if you refuse to work?

I assume you can’t refuse without a medical exception of some kind. These are imprisoned people, they also can’t leave. Not trying to excuse everything about prison labor but as a society we have decided the state has the capacity to remove rights from people as a punishment after due process has been afforded to them. We can argue that it’s not right or humane to force labor on an imprisoned population without saying it’s literally slavery. “It’s not literally slavery” is not a defense of the system.

We’re not arguing “well prisoners can’t be sold to other prisons so that proves it’s not slavery” because that one difference doesn’t prove anything, just like one similarity doesn’t prove anything.

It may not be inherited at birth but is the system setup to capture successive generations of prisoners from the same families?

…no? Even if you include Capitalism and wealth inequality and racist policing as part of “the system” maybe members of the same family are disproportionately likely to be imprisoned because they are the same race and likely similar economic status, that isn’t because a parent was imprisoned. There’s nothing targeting children of imprisoned people. And even then, you’re trying to compare disproportionate odds to be imprisoned to literal 100% ownership of slaves’ children by slave masters? What are we talking about here?

It’s also time-bound for the length of the sentence. So like sure it’s slavery…temporarily, non-inherited, non-race-specific, as a punishment for a crime, at least sometimes paid.

Which is just a lot of caveats.

Similarly, having a job is just temporary, non-inherited, non-race-specific paid slavery where you get to pick your slave master. Sure you can make that argument but it’s not a very good one.

A lot of stuff about the US prison system is really bad, including this part, it’s just not literally slavery, and it doesn’t have to be slavery to be really bad and need changing.

Michigan GOP is in shambles because they elected the “outsider” MAGA candidates who had no fundraising experience, they immediately failed to fundraise enough, it got so bad that their flagship annual fundraiser was a fraction of its normal size.

Instead of pulling together to right the ship they…immediately turned to conspiracy theories, declared each other to be Deep State plants, and demanded the party leaders “open the books” to show how much money there really was, but party leaders refuse because it would prove how bad at fundraising they have been.

Detailed in a recent This American Life.

If I’m low on hot air I’ll just invite [local politician] on the balloon! Oh ho ho ho

The nihilism of legal consequences has so far come from the lack of charging him with anything, mostly when he was president and the policy was not to charge him with anything. He hasn’t actually gotten away with anything that has gone to court.

He lost the E Jean Carroll suit and the Trump Corp fraud case. The other stuff is still ongoing.

That’s kind of like saying sports cars are the transportation equivalent of a painting because they are made to look good. I guess you could say that, but it’s not really a useful metaphor if they only have the one thing in common and they’re both things everyone would be familiar with so you’re not translating into more common experience.

The Australian billionaire who leaked the nuclear sub info he got from Trump bragged about doing that. Called it a cost of doing business.

I asked for a switch and all I got was a vers.

I just realized recently that I’m back up within 20lbs of where I was in the “oh my God things have to change” weight.

There’s some subset here who are just trolling the polls or giving the answer that supports their candidate regardless. But even reading this flatly, I think that’s fine for Biden. He’s never getting the “poison the blood” vote, that’s the 42% of the furthest right 50% of the country.

But then there’s the 58% who don’t like this. A large number of them will still vote for Trump in the General if they vote because they still like him better than Biden, but this is one more thing making them maybe not vote, maybe protest vote for a 3rd party, whatever. That’s something.

Trump appeared on Epstein’s flight logs at least 7 times confirmed in a court of law it’s not even conjecture to say he is on there.

There is literally no evidence or reason to believe Biden is on the list.

But BoTh sIdEs