All of pugjesus comments are open for anyone to read. You’re acting frankly nuts right now given the tone.

You are putting words in my mouth.

He’s handwaving genocide. You are too.

Im blocking you. You are deranged.

Absolutely wild take, but keep acting like anyone to the left of Bill Krystol is Satan.

I want Trump to lose actually, I just so happen to think that our support of Isreal is hurting those odds.

Most unfortunately. He’s otherwise alright if you avoid the political subs.

The dude applauds genocide my guy. Its sad that that take is so moderate in the US and indicative of the problem.

I really dont know why youd feel comfortable supporting a poster like that.

Everyone got political because that guy is pro genocide. Its a pretty gross stance. Hard to overlook.

The dude is really hurting his cause with his conservative takes. He makes supposed moderates look downright radical.

Removed by mod

Usually only the conservative Democrats on the politics pages. I just block them after a while.

Edit: what we like conservatives now?

The way polls are going, Biden probably doesn’t stand a chance. So this point is moot.

The real answer to your question in all of the polling is “generic Democrat.”

Im sitting here in a heat dome induced 100 degree weather. The heat is killing my ferns.

Id say this slow walking of change has already killed us all.

Lets assume it is extortion.

Wouldnt it be irresponsible to not give them what the want with the stakes so high?

What is so complex about “Do democrats need progressives”?

Either they are an instrumental voting block that needs to be taken seriously, or they don’t matter (and therefore deserve no blame if Joe loses).

You want it both ways because you are not arguing in good faith.

I’m saying dems are putting those rights at risk by alienating progressive voters. If all it takes is throwing progressives a couple of bones, then its irresponsible to not do it.

I agree. Its a risky game, and when dems are alienating their base, it becomes far riskier. Truly irresponsible behavior.

Let’s assume it is a hostage situation. It isn’t but let’s humor you.

Guess you think is worth not giving in, eh?

So what you’re saying is no, Democrats don’t need progressives.

Is that what you’re saying? It’s funny how I posit effectively a yes or no question and nobody can give a yes or no answer. You’re the fourth person in this one comment chain who hasnt said whether Democrats need progressives to win or not to make concessions.

Yes… or No?

I’m seeing people in this very thread being hesitant to admit that Democrats should probably court progressives for a victory.

A lot of people, even here on Lemmy, which is supposed to be quite left leaning, would rather Trump win than throw progressives a bone.

Perhaps I’m just reading into this too much, but it seems like Democrats are being actively hostile against progressives right now. How are we supposed to change things if they are being outright hostile towards progressivism?

This is the uphill battle that Democrats are going to have to face. You can’t continuously alienate your voter base and then expect positive results. The base factually is already alienated. The question is, what will Democrats do to win them back? Is it too late? The clock is ticking And I don’t think the Democrats are learning the correct lesson.

So nobody will answer. Got it.

It sure seems like the non-progressives have taken their ball and went home. Some allies.

That is not an answer. Do Democrats need progressives enough to concede on issues?

Yes or No? Thats the reality we face, like it or not.