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  • The point isn’t that not voting for harris is really an option. the point is to actually encourage the party to do the right thing. Least so far the “uncommited” group has been on the elections that dont’ matter, the polls etc…

    Point is you need some level of power. You don’t exactly have a bargaining position when you walk up to the officials and say “stop killing people or I’ll vote for you anyway”. I mean I get it, we live in a fake democracy… we’re given the choice of someone who’s bad on the issue, or someone who’s worse on the issue.

    Honestly on the whole I applaud Harris, she’s actually at least paying lip service to hearing people out, and pushing for a cease fire. It’s the least you can do, but it’s more than biden did, and there’s at least an inkling of hope she’ll actually follow it up.




  • Well it comes down to 2 problems though.

    First and most obvious hitting that critical mass… before you hit it, everything is hell, you are stuck with BS laws, and you can’t do anything about it. Your vote is worthless.

    In my town this november there was one ballot issue… in short, it was summarized as "put a million dollars towards schools, build a new school on an unused empty lot owned by the school system, build a new sports field for one of the schools). Digging deeper that would be paid for by a proporty tax that would cost… up to 100 a year for people making over 150k.

    So… the whole town was plastered in “vote no” signs, when I went to the polling place a guy outside asked me to “strongly consider voting no”. I was one of the 17% that voted yes.

    So that basically tells me… demographically we need an insane change for the politics of this area to be less stupid, and that’s before factoring in that not only does it involve a HUGE change to reach 51%… but realistically we need more like 65-70% to counteract the inevitable gerymandering that will happen if we ever get anywhere close. I will be staying here, and I’d be happy to encourage all my progressive friends to stay and/or move here. But when it comes down to it, I’d be shocked if there is a swing in the next 50 years, and I certainly wouldn’t encourage anyone in a group that is likely to be directly oppressed to move here.