Don’t know about iOS but yeah for Android it’s shit. They say they’re working on it.

Check out cosmos cloud too…

SimpleX chat.

Maybe this? https://nuclear.js.org/

That makes 2 of us. I hope someone can offer any input here…

That is a very good question why I’m thinking about switching. I guess out of curiosity and also I think (which I might be wrong) that Cosmos seems to be more secure.

Using it for 4-5 years. Very satisfied with it although some hiccups here and there. Not sure if a stick with it or move to cosmos-cloud.io

Get a Pixel, install GrapheneOS and you’re done.

Why is that?

Cantata ftw !!

GrapheneOS. Everything works, securely.

Ah f@ck! Seems that it’s unavoidable in the near future. Totally unacceptable though.

Change bank.

FeedMe for Android.

Closed source?

Oh yeah I missed the "just for fun’ bit…

Why don’t you use regular chat apps that have voice video capabilities?

Many years ago I used XMPP with Prosody and it was ok.

• You can setup some retention time for attachments and history depending on the space you have.
• There are clients for multiple platforms but not very much advanced vs competition.
• Security is good with omemo protocol. In so e clients you have to turn it on since it’s not by default.
• Audio video calls on one to one is good as long as you setup stun coturn server. Android to iOS calls still in progress.
• Check out Snikket for an all in one solution.

You might want to also consider Matrix (dendrite option ?) for your needs.

Or even better flash LineageOS on it!

They wanna play with AI for Pixels 8 and above, my guess. Online AI processing.