Yes sunsets are definitely my favorites as far as chocs go. Currently using a mostly Mx board but a few of the thumb switches are sunset chocs.
If I had to nit pick they are a little scratchy and having the tactile feel closer to the actual switch activation would be nice. But it’s not like there is the wealth of options that exist on the mx side.
Not sure what your picture of anatomy looks like if you think these are in my face… plus what would I be looking at, they keys are blank. Again the real advantage to a spilt is allow for free translation along the X axis and rotation on Z.
If you like having your boards spaced shoulder width great but you are really off about your view of the ergonomics. Take a look at how people use spilts and other one piece ergo boards. Also we work with our hands if front of our chests because of the economics not in spite of it. Working this way doesn’t lead to hunched posture…
I feel like you didn’t actually read what I wrote… If you were going to mix some cake batter where would you position the bowl/spoon. Naturally you are going to work with it more less centered on your body. Sewing, widdling, tool usage ect… It’s not about your shoulders is Ulnar deviation. Why do you think we consider boards like the miryoku or alice style boards as ergomech if they are not shoulder width spaced?
Yeah I’ve never actually tried non-sculpted caps on a keywell so I’m really just guessing on the difference. I started with sculpted caps on my moonlander and never really touched non sculpted caps since.
The switches as U4 silent tactiles, not the U4t. I’m getting more used to them after a couple days of typing but they still feel a bit scratchy and abrupt. Also some of the keys have a bit of ping to them. Some of this might be due to my swapping the springs with 45g ones. More than the feel though, which again I’m growing more used to (and maybe is improving as they break in), they aren’t all that silent. The silent squids which I had on here before by comparison where dead quiet; they just felt a tad mushy. I think I’d rather have true silence with a little bit of mush or just go with non-silent tactiles (like T1 Sunflower’s on previous build) with superior tactile feel.
Ulnar deviation is the main ergonomic issue that split keyboards address. You can eliminate this by rotating your splits away from each other so that you don’t have any bend in your wrist. Shoulder position doesn’t really change much no matter where you position things, only the muscles that are engaged change much and it’s actually more work to spread your arms than it is having them point inwards. How common tasks are there that involve working with our hands at shoulder width?
Keywell keyboards will give you less, and more natural finger travel compared to a flat board. Though with only 3 rows the difference isn’t really all that much compared to a flat board with good sculpted keys. It’s a much bigger deal once you go larger than 3 rows.
For me the major motivation to try out this style of board was the curved thumb cluster. At least in my opinion most thumb clusters you see are pretty terrible from an ergonomics perspective. Even when you get one that doesn’t encourage curling your thumb under your fingers a flat arc doesn’t really correspond with the thumbs most natural movement. I find curved arc of this thumb cluster more natural and allows for more keys to be comfortably arranged than would otherwise be possible.
Thanks! I actually had Shrimp silents on here previously and I prefer them to the U4’s. I’m giving these a chance but I think I’ll be swapping these U4s back out for the shrimps unless I end up with something else. I’ll have to look at the TTC’s.
Thanks. Love they simplicity of your solution.
Hasn’t really come up yet, I’m wfh, but yeah I would want to take this with me if I could. Actually bought a hardcase to stick this in should I need to travel with it.
Going back to something flat would be a bit of an exercise. Sculpted alphas would go a long way even on a flat board but the biggest difference would be in the thumb cluster comfort.
I had considered adding integrated wrist rests but I rest my elbows on armrests and it hasn’t really been any issue.
This is the correct peripheral to keep between your splits.