Grind’em down with tiny progress

I understand and totally support that in general. I’m gonna try to explain my point of view.

In this case we don’t exactly look at policy-making. Between stating that a majority supports governmental action to ban one use plastics and actual policy is a process.

This process will “forge” the outcome. In it, several conflicting interests will meet/clash and according to the power relations between them, they will be able to enforce their respective will.

Since the power relations are, let’s say, fucked up, we are constantly seeing how profit of few overrule need of many and overall rational solutions.

Thats why the criterion “clearness” seems out of place for me at this point. Certanly, before it comes to the actual policy-making, things like the washabillity of surgical equipment will be processed. You will certanly not end up with a dirty scalpel in your body.

That’s why the scepticism of your initial comment seemed odd to me.

Don’t know if this should be seen as a given standard, or if we (“average lemmy users”) should disclaim it more often, but I don’t mean to be offensive (even though this format of short message discourse provoces a certain sass). I mean to have meaningful conversation about each others POV’s. That’s somewhat the point of lemmy, imo.

The magic about collective action is that the everyday-normal-coorperation of humans comes up with solutions for everyone. The pointer to individual decision-making in lack of collective action thus doesn’t work as a measure of how serious people are.

Also seen in episodes like

“Oh, you are wearing shoes made under unfair conditions?!”

And

“Oh there is fossil fuel in your energy consumption?”

Or

“Oh if you like democracy so much, why do you exist in a not-so-democratic-country?”

Regarding how rushed international policy-making for the environment and against profitability is not at all a problem has never been and won’t be anytime soone, that “scepticism” seems to be the product of “looking for superiority” here, imho

1. Tiniest fraction of single use plastic
2. Could be recycled or reused/resterilized
3. What flavour of skepticism are you trying to perform rn?

https://akg-online.org/arbeitskreise/fkpb-forum-kritische-politische-bildung/faq-e-konzept-und-gesinnungspruefung.html

It is not. If it was consensual it might be. If it’s real it’s not.

Surpressing your empathy in face of dire news is your right. We all have to in order to psychologically survive these times.

I think you shouldn’t act out that surpression as a funny joke in public. This adds to the brutalization of the public, wich we can’t really afford in these times, if we want them to become more human, more bearable

Southparknice.mp3

I don’t know which one is actually worse.

A nostalgia themed glamourizing of brutality right next to “unwanted people”. No explanation of how those two things connect, so all that stays is the association.

Kind of on a neuro-marketing like level of discours (just strenghtening your associations by creating emotions or atmosphere) he is mobilizing violence against immigrants. (And normalizing violence as a means of governing in general)

Ja, aber irgendwie auch nur in dem Maße in dem politische Inhalte gewählt werden und das setzt Auseinandersetzung mit den Inhalten vorraus. Sonst is nix mit Mitbestimmung oder kollektiver Meinungs- & Willensbildung

Probier aus meine These: Eine Gesellschaftsordnung, in der auf Wahlplakaten keine Inhalte sind, ist keine Demokratie.

Gleich rot? Schön wärs

Does anyone know what political stance(s) the attacking crowd is made of?

Like, also lefties? Tankies, anarchists? Or like MAGAs?

So close to not denormalizing gay men, yet…

I don’t know of a starter guide. I guess because it depends a lot on where you live and what kind of activism/political work goes with your opinion and, well, your life.

I guess the common approaches to increase one’s political agency are

• tumble into/ join a social movement This can be almost anything. Eco stuff, feminism, labour, city planning, community solidarity networks, antifa, antira, whatever floats your boat kind of.
• having a job and getting in touch with your union
• being a nerd, have a lot more theory going on then praxis so you search for groups matching your specific opinion

Basically no matter wich one it is, from there on you will meet people, meet ideas, discuss, get (even) more specific ideas of who is doing what and why and if you agree. Orientation comes with praxis, as in all fields I guess.

Maybe 2 starter guide like points:

1. Don’t go apocalypse mode. Yes, shit is hitting the fan more aggressively every minute and it’s beyond reason, empathy, humanity. Still, changing social order is a long term project. Make it sustainable, don’t burn out.
2. Get started. All that dooomscrolling, theorizing, accumulating frustration, anger, fear without any praxis just makes you either depressive or indifferent. All thinking no doing doesn’t work. Having people around you that aknowlede the problems you see and fight on your side makes all the difference.

• you may choose your form of epic. “Fighting” might sound weird to you. “I’m a revolutionary” sounds weird to me. Transforming society as good as you can without becoming unhappy af is what counts. The Zapatistas say “preguntando caminamos” - “asking we walk” or “proceeding while questioning”. I think thats a good epic and the best advice a have for you.

See you in the streets ;)

Just get organized and fight without leaving anyone :)

“I imply therefore I comply”

Wait… so is it an implication or a complication?

Ja! Auf eine extrem sperrige Ausweichformulierung einigen und die immer einsetzen bis das Verbot wegfällt.

Z.B. “Schülerinnen und Schüler und alle diee sich keinem binären sozialen Geschlecht zuordnen und auf diese Schule gehen und selbstverständlich ebenso dazu gehören”

untertitelt mit “Innenminister schlagen Alarm”

Diese husos. Erstmal komplett das System ausgehebelt indem ich bei Aldi die BILDs in der Auslage umgekippt hab, sodass sie so eingeklappt da lagen…

Random wrong place I know, but dont wanna bother more people then necessary: Why cant i see upvotes/downvotes?