• schmorp@slrpnk.netEnglish
    149·
    8 months ago

    Captcha buster is taking care of the captchas now at least. A robot that proves I’m not a robot. Is this the singularity yet?

  • plofi@lemmy.world
    1104·
    8 months ago

    In europe we have a “reject all” button for cookies and it’s fantastic

      • variants@possumpat.ioEnglish
        15·
        8 months ago

        I hate when I look up som simple info for a game and you get to a page that just has all this generated text telling you how you want to know that simple info and how they are going to tell you that simple info on that site and how this game makes you do that simple thing and some background about what that game is

        • Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com
          6·
          8 months ago

          Aargh triggering shit yeah it’s horrendous what funneling everyone on the internet through a single (or so) “research portal”

  • ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    61·
    8 months ago

    Internet in 2024 (for me):

    1. Service unavailable in your country (VPN)
    2. Confirm you’re a human (VPN)
    3. Blank page (noscript)
    4. Obscure error (fingerprint / cookie blocking)
    5. Page not found (https required)

    The percentage of websites that “just work” with privacy measures in place is depressingly small.

    • starry@suppo.fi
      192·
      8 months ago

      you have to put in extra work just to make your website not work with privacy measures. like you have to put in the work to use some bloated javascript framework that doesn’t work with noscript instead of just sticking with plain html and css, which would work. on top of that, i’ve encountered way too many big websites that don’t even have a noscript tag so all you see is a ghost layout or a blank page.

      • Kayana@ttrpg.network
        171·
        8 months ago

        That’s something I would disagree with though. “Sticking with plain HTML and CSS” is way more work, and often has significantly less functionality, than building a website with a framework.

        • starry@suppo.fi
          4·
          8 months ago

          you can build it with a framework, but maybe build it on the server side instead. I’ve seen many nice sites that hardly use any javascript and instead of a bunch of api calls, the server just returns new html to render.

      • ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        8 months ago

        I don’t mind frameworks, but some features that seem super useful to devs, like google analytics, and various diagnostic/logging tools, social media integrations, I would prefer to “opt in” when I decide they are necessary.

      • Plopp@lemmy.world
        9·
        8 months ago

        Not the person you’re asking and I’m running uMatrix instead of noscript to block scripts. But I do it to get more granular control over what my browser loads and runs. Why run scripts if a website works perfectly fine without them? These days I ain’t trusting shit out there on the web.

      • ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        Tldr: I prefer to opt-in.

        Technically it’s uBO, but I use the extreme setting that blocks all scripts by default. Truthfully I wasn’t aware just how many scripts get loaded especially on ecommerce and social media sites, there are too many heavy frameworks being used. Much of it is unnecessary bloat, slowing down my browser, and no small amount of it is devoted to tracking and data collection.

        In general, I find less than half of loaded scripts are required to make a page functional. It’s a process requiring trial-and-error, but I have a good set of base rules in place for trusted sites and scripts.

        For me, it’s about not giving websites free reign over my browser and by extension my computer and personal data, but having some measure of control over them.

        And occasionally there are suspicious sites where I truly don’t want any scripts to run. I don’t even have to worry about them.

    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
      2·
      8 months ago

      Are there even some left? Good old text+image-websites with pure information. Ahh the good old times.

      But why #5? What do have against https?

  • Sticker@lemy.nl
    49·
    8 months ago

    Most of all, I was sick of the captcha from cloudflare.
    On some sites, there was endless checking and it was impossible to view the content of the site.

    • Pumpkin Escobar@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      8 months ago

      Yeah, too many sites I’ve done 3+ captchas and still won’t let me in, and not even the ones where 1 cell has either a shadow or a sliver of a bike tire. And reports that bots are now better at passing these than people. I won’t use a site with a pick-the-squares captcha anymore.

      Click a slider is the most I’ll do. If anyone needs me I’ll be over here hanging out with the bots that are too shitty to pass a captcha.

    • FarFarAway@startrek.websiteEnglish
      210·
      8 months ago

      To be fair I havent gotten one of those types of captchas in a while. And now there’s typically a reject all non essential cookies button somewhere.

      Edit: I will clarify. It’s not that I don’t get captchas, it’s that I don’t get the “which picture in the grid contains…” captchas. I keep getting some stupid puzzle piece captcha. Idk.

      • Dulusa@lemmy.world
        15·
        8 months ago

        The thing your missing is, when you click only allow non essential, that means it’s still 700 companies tracking you because of the great term “legitimate interest”. That’s the one you need to deactivate and this usually one by one as shown in this post.

        So yeah, you’re essentially allowing all the stuff the way you’re doing it

        • FarFarAway@startrek.websiteEnglish
          1·
          8 months ago

          Well its allow only essential / reject all non essential cookies.

          Idk I used to have to go through one by one and do this. Now there’s typically somewhere around 4 subcategories. Essential / strictly necessary cookies say always active and there’s nothing you can do to change anything in that category and everything else has been lumped into other categories you can reject by hand or hit the reject button. all those companies fall under marketing. I guess maybe if I turn off the marketing / targeting category, there’s some within that don’t turn off, but much of the time they don’t even give me the option to check who’s participating.

          Maybe I have trained myself not to go to those places. If I have, it wasn’t on purpose. Occasionally, i get interested in a subject and randomly search, but i dont do most social media so idk. Maybe I don’t even realize hit the back button anymore when i see it menus that make me do this. To me this post seems like something that I would encounter maybe a year ago , if not more. Not something I see on the regular now. (Edit: suppose since about a year or two after the EU passed their laws)

      • crazyCat@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        8 months ago

        Might be because you trained yourself to avoid those sites that need them. I stopped using some SaaS because logging in was just too hard.

      • Kedly@lemm.ee
        2·
        8 months ago

        It’s VPN’s that’ll trigger the captchas. I never get them unless I forget to turn my VPN off after “hanging out with my peers”, and then a BUNCH of sites will captcha me

        • FarFarAway@startrek.websiteEnglish
          2·
          8 months ago

          I keep getting some stupid drag this puzzle piece, in a straight line, into place. I’ve gotten 1 grid like that and a word captcha in the past 6 months.

        • WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          8 months ago

          I don’t with proton vpn plus at the moment tho I have ublock origgin blocking third party dcripts and noscript blocking most scripts all tpgether on my pc soo half the website that migh show them probably don’t even work

          • Kuma@lemmy.world
            2·
            8 months ago

            Same (proton and ublocker), but I have also found that some web pages cares what browser you use if you are on proton. If I use chrome then they may just do the verification when you wait 3 seconds but with Firefox and proton (not without proton) do I get a lot of captcha sometimes even after each other just to make triple sure I am not a bot… or even get blocked entirely…

  • Vrtrx@lemmy.world
    461·
    8 months ago

    The cookies being pre selected is illegal in the EU. Although I’ve seen sites that don’t care and still enable them by default

    • Dicska@lemmy.world
      18·
      8 months ago

      The ones I’ve seen disable the ‘consent’ bits by default, but then there’s ‘vendor preferences’ where ‘legitimate interest’ is automatically ON in 58 places (I’m not exaggerating; I have counted it) and you have to manually off all of them.

      When you click the question mark at ‘legitimate interest’, all it says is some vendors are not asking for your consent to use your data but collect it based on their legitimate interest.

      It’s infinitely vague and it has the vibe of ‘I’m not going to ask for it, I will just take it and I will use it for whatever I want anyway’.

      • pseudo@jlai.luEnglish
        10·
        8 months ago

        Legitimate interest was a concept invented by Facebook which basic is idea is to say “I’ve got my reasons, so it fine for me not to follow the law”.

  • Gekoloniseerd@lemmy.world
    31·
    8 months ago

    I use the addon ‘consent o-matic’ it automatically rejects all the cookies and it almost always works. Great addon to add to your (Firefox) browser.

      • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
        4·
        8 months ago

        I use “I don’t care about cookies” but it’s detected and blocked by cnn. Does ghostery work?

        Basically we are going to need more and more addon’s and functionality to mitigate this shit. Ignore all cookies, delete all cookies. Basically code for many specific websites to make them usable again.

  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.world
    24·
    8 months ago

    I encountered the mother of all captchas the other day: it had me picking a three-dimensional room diagram among six of them, matching it to a 2d top-down view of the room. It was way more time consuming than a typical captcha, and I had to do the same task five or six times.

    I think we’ll see harder and harder captchas as AI models get better and better. Eventually it won’t be a realistic option since it just costs humans time and the convenience of whatever service they’re trying to use.

  • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
    24·
    8 months ago

    We need to develop more alternatives like federated social media or even completely make web services p2p. And then have them somewhat democratically controlled, or easily able to migrate to alternatives without cost of loosing network effects.

    Especially something like amazon / ebay / paypal / ali would be awesome to replace with a “public utility” federated version. They tax so much of the sales and it all goes to psycho billionaires.

    • deur@feddit.nl
      5·
      8 months ago

      Web services are already peer to peer, you mean “decentralized”.

      • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
        1·
        8 months ago

        Not sure I understand, peer to peer is always decentralized, i.e. no central server. But the main feature would have to be that you can switch or fork a web application / service - but take your networks with you like a federated service. Not sure how that can work tbh.

    • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
      3·
      8 months ago

      I2P is a “peer-to-peer” internet, so to speak. Not much going on there, but it exists. If you’re old enough, think of it as a separate internet that exists in a Kazaa/eMule-esque network.

      • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
        2·
        8 months ago

        Oh I still mourn eMule haha. I always thought it was better than torrent, but torrent won for some reason - presumably because it needed more websites and servers to function and that created a market and a marketing gain. I guess I should check out I2P.

  • kase@lemmy.world
    22·
    8 months ago

    Hey, you know the captchas with the little box of warped letters/numbers you’re supposed to look at and type it correctly?

    Is anyone else, uh, terrible at those? I’ve literally given up on visiting websites before because I couldn’t get the stupid thing right after a dozen tries. Wtf.