After months of bickering Congress remains completely unable to agree on any legislation on border security or aid to Israel and Ukraine — all priorities that a majority of lawmakers agree are needed.

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    Frankly, it’s not Congress - it’s the House Republicans. They got what they said they wanted. They didn’t have a plan for if they got what they said they wanted. But they don’t want to “give Biden a win”, so they’re going to throw away the deal that gives them what they said they wanted. That’s gonna play real fuckin bad with their base come November.

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      The republicans that I know don’t give a shit. They don’t pay any attention to what their politicians do, and they don’t want to hear about it, either. If they do somehow learn that republicans aren’t supporting the very thing they asked for, all it’ll take to convince them that’s a good thing is someone on fox news saying it somehow wasn’t really going to do what they wanted, and they’ll accept it without any further elaboration. It doesn’t matter if it’s a lie - they’ll never know or care.

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        I get different answers.

        “It’s too late now”.
        “They’re (Dems) are just trying to save face.”.
        “That bill is so packed with other things… You can’t trust it.”.

        They will just always give their party the benefit of the doubt.

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        Even if the base were swayed by this (they aren’t), they will literally never hear about this. They live in a completely different reality. Right wing media has totally insulated these people from the real world.

        And even if you could somehow break the magical Hogwarts spell that is right wing media, the idea that someone would change their position based on new information is inherently bad to conservatives.

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      They got what they said they wanted. They didn’t have a plan for if they got what they said they wanted.

      Which is odd. They’re dealing with Democrats here, so they should have anticipated total capitulation.

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      The GOP base won’t hear, or if they do, they’ll hear a spin.

      I’m disgusted having to vote strait D when those cowards won’t fight back. This situation should be all over broadcast TV and radio. The Democrats should flood social media with this.

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      Every Republican I know thinks it’s the Democrats fault because they think they tried to make a bunch of concessions.

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    So much for Republicans’ good faith … Which never existed in the Trump era

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    Any time a Republican complains about anything from now on, it’s their own fault. Simple.

    Joe Biden is your next president.

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      Anytime a Republican complains about something, they are deflecting something else. They are not “good actors”, they do not argue genuinely, they do not want what they say they want and they will not say what they actually want.

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    The only persons opinion that really matters is that of the chair. As long as he does not put a bill on the floor any discussion is useless.

    Have him put it to a vote and see.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A bipartisan Senate package that paired border security measures with assistance to Israel and Ukraine appeared all but dead Tuesday, after Republicans backed away from the deal amid growing criticism from the right.

    The bill in question was specifically crafted to meet GOP demands that Democrats link border policy changes to President Biden’s request for military aid to Israel and Ukraine.

    Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said he plans to move forward with a procedural vote to begin debate Wednesday or Thursday, in response to Republican requests for more time to consider the bill.

    House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., said Tuesday morning that “Republicans simply cannot vote for the bill in good conscience,” arguing that it does not do enough to secure the border, and that Biden already has legal authority to address the surge of migrants that he is not using.

    Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy was forced to remove $3oo million of aid to Ukraine from a larger defense bill in the fall in order to win over a handful of GOP holdouts.

    Several House GOP members expressed doubt about impeachment, leaving leaders hours to try to rally support in order to avoid an embarrassing vote planned for Tuesday evening.


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    Forgot to mention the bit where it still allows illegal immigrants in, and bypasses the asylum courts so theyll give everyone asylum.

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      I don’t think you’ve read the relevant text. 8 U.S.C. 1221 is amended as such, with reguards to Section 240

      The asylum officer or immigration officer may refer or place an alien into removal proceedings under section 240 by issuing a notice to appear for the purpose of initiating such proceedings if either such officer determines that

      (i) such proceedings are required in order to permit the alien to seek an immigration benefit for which the alien is legally entitled to apply

      The bypassing puts them on a default to expel path if expedited determination fails. That is their petition is by default invalid until proven valid, which is the opposite of the courts’ standing. This is borderline a violation of due process really.

      You’re right in that they can bypass the courts with this, but it’s hardly “give everyone asylum”. It is in fact quite the opposite, deny everyone asylum without due process in the courts to make a case.