Recent remarks he made urging an end to the Gaza conflict, with no insistence on freeing Israeli hostages first, were another departure from conservatives’ support for Benjamin Netanyahu.
  • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
    582·
    3 个月前

    I’ll translate from mob-boss-speak: when Trump says “finish up,” he means “complete the extermination of the Palestinian people quickly, before the anti-genocide opposition can finish mobilizing to stop it.”

    • Sizzler@slrpnk.net
      3·
      3 个月前

      “Donald Trump did not expressly direct him to reverse engineer financial statements, he ordered him to do so indirectly, in his ‘mob voice.’”

    • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
      79·
      3 个月前

      what anti-genocide opposition?

      Biden hasn’t even stepped back an inch on supporting Israel even after all the protests, resignations, and blatant evidence of war crimes.

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        3 个月前

        I’m talking about the anti-genocide protestors in Israel and elsewhere who keep getting threatened, arrested, censored, etc.

        • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          3 个月前

          Ah I was confused because you said “mobilize” which made it seem like you meant opposition party.

          • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            3 个月前

            I mean, surely there are some political parties in Israel opposed to the genocide.

  • WarmSoda@lemm.ee
    219·
    3 个月前

    Uh oh, now Lemmy ml won’t know who to tell Americans to vote for.

    • John Richard@lemmy.world
      715·
      3 个月前

      Nah, they’ll just up the pro-Biden memes thinking that they are somehow getting more Biden voters.

      • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
        144·
        3 个月前

        The point is they don’t want either, and act like not voting for either means they won’t get one of the two, which is false.

        • John Richard@lemmy.world
          317·
          3 个月前

          First, this is a self-created scenario. Honestly, if it came to Bernie and Trump… would you be more scared of Trump winning or Bernie? If your answer is Trump, then ask the Democrats why they are more scared of having someone like Bernie win than they are of risking Trump winning again. That should tell you all you need to know about what and who you’re actually voting for. It is the same show different season, but you forgot to watch seasons 1-7 to see they all are the same story with new actors every now and then.

          • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
            7·
            3 个月前

            It’s not, there’s 2 candidates right now, one is trump.

            There is no known democratic politician that if they replaced Biden, I’d vote for trump. It’s not gonna happen. Bernie, fuck it Hillary, any of em. Trump must not be president.

            Trump is unlike any other president or presidential candidate in the modern age. Avoiding project 2025, insurrection 2.0 or any other maga shenanigans is the top order.

            • John Richard@lemmy.world
              27·
              3 个月前

              Yeah, no shit. There were the same two candidates last time too and Biden didn’t win more votes cause he was well liked. So same story and same characters, different season. They are taking a bigger risk this time around though, but hey… if Trump does win, make sure you blame everyone but the Democrats.

              • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
                5·
                3 个月前

                Not sure what you mean. I didn’t pick the candidates, I have 2 to choose from.

                Just because something happened to us, the voter, twice doesn’t mean we have any more agency of change this time than last.

              • WarmSoda@lemm.ee
                12·
                3 个月前

                Absolutely. Just asking. Lots of people from outside the US love to act like they know everything about our elections.

                • OKRainbowKid@feddit.de
                  12·
                  3 个月前

                  I don’t need to be from the US in order to understand US politics / political system better than the average US citizen.

  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    112·
    3 个月前

    Why is the New York Times reporting on the feelings of a random far-right Israeli? Who pitched this story to them? This story says more about the Times’ view of what is newsworthy than anything substantive about Trump’s relationship with Israel or the right.

    It just comes across as more “both sides” white-washing. If you look hard enough you can find a source for whatever message you want to put out and then just couch it in “some say”.

  • Not_mikey@slrpnk.net
    62·
    3 个月前

    I feel like trump never really supported Israel. It’s never been one of his big campaign issues and his isolationist tendencies push him away from it. He likes netanyahu like he likes the Saudis because they kiss his ass, but like all the sycophants who surround him he’ll abandon them as soon as they start being a liability, and this war, even with his base, is starting to become a liability.

    He’s the opposite of Biden in that way, Trump had no particular attachment to Israel and would probably be fine if it stopped but his party is pulling him into a hard-line approach. Meanwhile Biden has been a passionate Zionist his whole political career and is being pulled by the left in the party to a call for ceasefire.

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      5·
      3 个月前

      I feel like trump never really supported Israel.

      He’s not genuinely religious. I doubt he’s a believer but he’s definitely not a true-believer. He just knows the rubes mostly are. Convenient exploitation plus dog-whistle.