• RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Because without it there would be no UN, and as useless as you think the current UN is, I promise you no UN is even more useless.

    It’s bleak but the fact that we can even get everybody in the same room is remarkable. Like it or not, a UN where Monaco and the US (or, Russia, China, etc) have the same power at the table is a UN where the big players reject its authority and form their own clubs.

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        3 months ago

        He didn’t say all nations have the same power in the UN. He said the opposite. Read the comment before you reply to it

        “Like it or not, a UN where Monaco and the US (…) have the same power at the table is a UN where the big players reject its authority and form their own clubs.”

    • Venia Silente@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      Justify how there would be no UN without such veto. Because, honestly, an agreement council where you can only agree as a group to do something if the big players don’t say otherwise to me looks like it just compounds the eternal problems we already have and is nothing more than just another flavour of “feel free to protest in a way that does not importunate me” Capitalism.

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        3 months ago

        Because there isn’t a UN without America, China and Russia.

        France and the UK could leave and the UN could exist but those 3? Not a chance.

        Each of those larger nations carries so much weight that their influence on global politics would outshine any body that tried to legislate without them.

        The UN could exist technically but it would have no teeth at all. It has few enough as is.

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          3 months ago

          Still, doesn’t sound like a good argument to give those nations veto power over all decisions. Like, currently the way things are reading a motion could come it to have the UN acknowledge that, say, Palestinians are still human beings, and the US could veto that - and then what?