• _number8_@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      this is what always makes me insane. police presence inherently increases tension because oh now here’s a gang of jackbooted thugs with guns and tasers and the power to ruin your life and/or murder you and get away with it, just hangin out. just tryna keep people safe.

      i mean that shit must only work on the boomeriest boomers, right? that would only help at a particularly rowdy Kenny Chesney concert

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    Too bad Biden and other “moderates” Dems care about as much about facts and logics as trump does.

    Their donors want them to shit on protestors, so that’s what they’ll do.

    Biden’s going to fuck around and let trump win because he can’t stand up to Israel.

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      • As of right now he is still blocking that dumb bomb weapon shipment.

      Should he have done it sooner? Absolutely, but it is a step at least, now let’s see what happens when push comes to shove.

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        I may just be to cynical at this point but I don’t trust that at all. It’s just a pause.

        Biden has structured that block as a “Type 2” decision. It creates the illusion of standing up to Israel but it allows him to instantly and unilaterally completely reverse it as soon as public attention has shifted.

        Given history, I expect that’s exactly what will happen. Once the IDF murders enough people in Rafah, they’ll be “done”. Then they can pretend that they’ve turned over a new leaf and definitely won’t do any more genocide. Biden will congratulate them and resume all the weapons shipments, including sending the stuff that’s currently being held back.

        Short of restructuring this as a “Type 1” decision, there’s little reason to think this is anything beyond theatrics.

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            They’ve already started shooting into Rafah. That was the safe zone they told everyone to go to.

            What push or shove are we waiting for? The start of the full scale invasion? The conclusion of a full scale invasion? Is there some number of civilians deaths that would be too much?

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      2 months ago

      [serious] why are there so many ‘moderate’ biden stans on this site (not you, but generally)? i thought lemmy was the sort of leftist reddit alternative

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        Because it’s a misrepresentation of people defending Biden and leftist in general.

        Just because someone defends Biden doesn’t mean they support him. There’s a lot of hyperbolic invective being directed at him. And he definitely has himself to blame for some of it. Expediting CONGRESS’S shipment of arms to Israel. And trying to stay as neutral and diplomatic as possible in the face of the horrors Israel is unleashing.

        It seems suspicious how narrow the focus is on him however. With literally no one pestering their Congress critters who could actually do something about all of this. Sure we should pressure Biden to lead better. But if people actually wanted to get things done and not just virtue signal, they’d be yelling at Congress more.

        And finally leftist != accelerationist. Some, like ML know their ideology isn’t an actual improvement over capitalism. That the only way they could convince people to switch to their ideology is to destroy and degrade things much like capitalists do to other countries. But plenty of us lefties think both of them are wrong and pragmatically try to work to make things better.

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      Too bad Biden and other “moderates” Dems care about as much about facts and logics as trump does.

      Liberals on lemmy seeing any criticism asking Biden be held accountable for decisions Biden makes:

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      I am not exactly thrilled with Biden but Trump would absolutely be far, far, far, far worse. For America, the world and definitely Palestinians. I have zero doubt about that.

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    It kind of sucks that having literal video proof of how it all went down doesn’t actually matter. They just say whatever they want, and so many people will never look into it, just take their word.