• Granbo's Holy Hotrod@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    This christian right bullshit needs to stop. “Yeah, we wanna subjugate our woman and minorities” is a rough stance and the fact that they have support is wild. The internet has ruined us.

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      5 months ago

      This was festering long before the Internet. Where do you think Margaret Atwood got the idea of the Handmaids Tale from?

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        5 months ago

        It’s complicated, but some would argue the modern Internet started in 1986 (with the adoption of DNS and TCP/IP for the NFSNET), a full year after Handmaid’s Tale was published even.

        But yeah, Atwood stated she took inspiration from religious movements in the 1980s to oppress women, the Islamic revolution in Iran in the 1970s and it’s effect on women, and the pushback in late 1940s against women working after the war ended.

        All of this prexisted the Internet by a long shot.

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          5 months ago

          That is a technicality. Nothing was being shared at the breadth needed to influence large portions of the population back in the 80’s.

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            I was born in the back half of the 90’s and can confidently say that you’re wrong. Sharing information existed long before the Internet and cell phones.

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              That’s not what he said though, he said it wasn’t shared to the same quantity, which is easily demonstrated by looking at total internet traffic stats as well as % of households with a connection and the type and speed of that connection over the past 30 years.

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      5 months ago

      The Internet is only a catalyst. It’s like a megaphone that anyone can use and extend their reach. The scary thing is when you realize that the village idiots of the world are now able to talk to eachothers.

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        5 months ago

        And then tech companies providing social media have realized these same people would also give them massive tax breaks and no worker protections.

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      5 months ago

      Not an internet thing at all. The writing has been on the wall for years about right wing politics in the US. Since long before the internet.

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      5 months ago

      Would stop real fast if no woman voted for a republican again I’d bet.

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      The internet? These people had these views long before the internet was even invented, you just know about it now.

      If anything the internet has massively amplified progressive voices by making information so free, over half of youths today in countries like the US and the UK claim to be socialists, such a thing would be unthinkable even 20 years ago.

      If anything the high degree of manipulation of media is a normalisation of the internet’s disruption to the status quo.

      The left needs to stop blaming tech because we are all leftists discussing this here thanks to tech, and public projects like the internet as well as the open source movement and the information-sharing they facilitate is the #1 thing actually protecting women and minorities from laws like these.

      These people have always existed and held these opinions. Many, many people are just awful, ghoulish bigots, and while they shush to be polite in person, they make it heard at the voting booth.

      If you want to pin the blame on something, you have to detangle modernity and technology from corporate and institutional abuse of these things or you’re just a neo-luddite and you have more in common with these folks than you realize

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      5 months ago

      these positions all existed before the internet. I think its more that journalism has been gutted