• Ibaudia@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Well they certainly have compassion, cooperation, a sense of fairness, social norms, etc. Whether that makes ethics is a matter of semantics, I think.

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      1 month ago

      well if we’re going by the traditionally defined ethics as we humans use it. No, because they don’t speak english.

      Do they have some form of ethical system? Probably, i believe we’ve even seen as much in some species already.

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        1 month ago

        No, because they don’t speak english.

        Lots of people in the world who don’t speak English.

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          1 month ago

          correct me if im wrong here, but do any animals, ever, at all, speak any human language at all?

          I just used english as a force of habit. A stand in statement if you will.

          Perhaps maybe even the fact that we’re speaking in fucking english right now, will lead you to the reason as to why i stated english.

          Of course people don’t fucking speak english, what a stupid fucking comment.

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            1 month ago

            Varmaa siksi koska mä veikkaan et puhu mitään muuta kieltä, joten jos mä rupeen kirjottaa jollai muul kielel, ni sun pitää vaivautua itse kääntämään se (mikä ei tosin nykyään vaadi kun sen kaks klikkaust, sillonku mnää olin piän ni sullei ois ollu mitää tsänssiä).

            Monolinguistic people rarely realise just how overtly ethnocentric they’re being. Guess it’s hard to see when you don’t have any other languages to think in.

            How hard would it have been to just refrain from the word English in that sentence? Why did you feel the need to add it? Does “animals don’t speak” somehow not convey the meaning of that? (Genuine questions, not sarcasm.)

            Of course people don’t fucking speak english, what a stupid fucking comment.

            If you think that’s stupid, wait until you hear about the guy who said the same thing of animals.

            There are lots of parrots who can clearly utter recognisable English, so yes, there are animals who speak English. On what level can they understand the language they use, that’s another question entirely. Which more or less was my point in replying to you. :)

            Anyway, for those actually interested in what the current research says about how much animals can use language, NativLang on YT has an awesome series on animal speech/grammar that goes into depth on the subject. Here’s the first video.