• zelifcam@lemmy.world
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    This is absurd. Dave is no villain. Y’all need to get some sunlight.

    Please. Elaborate on all of the terrible things Dave Grohl has done that we need to start organizing and protesting against.

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      Agree 100%

      I’m sure it was presented to the band like this “hey will you do a private show for a dump truck of money?” Of course the answer is yes. As if he has any way of knowing what’s going on inside a company, who’s specifically on the invite list - come on…. He’s a rock star - he plays shows for money, bitches, and blow. That’s all there is to it - he ain’t the villain here.

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      Seriously. This is as shitty as the Right boycotting Budlight.

      Go ahead & burn your FF tunes. Hell make a social media post about it. It’ll do good, we promise.

      Why don’t you wait & see what Dave does with money? Anybody know what his charitable interests are?

      Y’all just want to burn some one & you’ll burn your heroes as easily as your villains. Buncha fuckin’ assholes.

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        To be fair the right boycott things for being inclusive. I like to boycott things for being divisive or shitting on the little guy.

        Does it matter? To the companies and people I boycott, probably not. But I know I’m not giving my money to people I don’t agree with.

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          I guess my point is, in what way is Foo Fighters playing for Amazon divisive?

          Amazon was going to pay someone to perform at that show & that performer, regardless of whether it was FF, was not going to convince Amazon to give that money to employees that deserved it.

          So what exactly did the Foo Fighters do to earn this level ire? You’d rather Amazon gave that money to another performer?

          If everyone really feels that strongly about FF taking this gig, then start a campaign telling FF how you think the money should be spent.

          I’d certainly consider that a better use of everyone’s anger.

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            Divisive. Just look at these comments.

            The argument if it’s not them it’ll be someone else is pretty weak.

            I may as well rob my neighbours house, if it isn’t me it might be someone else aye?

            Yeah I’d rather they give it someone else if it goes against FF morals. I certainly would have turned it down if I were them.

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              Look, congratulations on being able to turn down a paycheck from Amazon. I myself would absolutely take that paycheck from Amazon.

              But I digress… So, back to the topic at hand.

              In what way is any of this FF’s fault? What have FF done to divide anyone? Perform?

              Amazon wanted a concert. Amazon got a concert. Amazon was going to get a concert, regardless of who performed.

              Your argument is that FF are fault because… because why? They should’ve turned it down?

              Who should have performed for Amazon then?

              If that argument is so weak, you go right on ahead and tell me who the ethical choice would be for an Amazon concert? Dua Lipa? Green Day? Chris Brown?

              You know what? Your right. Every single established musical act should have displayed the mental fortitude & character to turn down Amazon’s money.

              The key word there is SHOULD, but should isn’t always realistic.

              Be mad at Amazon. I’m with you on that. But blaming a band because you don’t like person who signs their check is pretty self defeating in my opinion.

              The Foo Fighters don’t owe any of us shit & our opinions on their income streams are irrelevant.

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                Thank you. I really do turn down money for what I believe in and I’m not rich, I just think there is more to life than money. As a software developer I could earn a lot more by working for say a gambling company, but I wouldn’t do that as I find the industry particularly morally bankrupt.

                You’re conflating what they have done wrong with what I finding morally acceptable. FF can do whatever the fuck they want and be fine, but they can’t do whatever the fuck they want and still receive my money or attention.

                It’s not that deep. FF don’t even know I exist, and they’ll continue to be rich and successful. Just without me compromising my beliefs.

                I don’t know if the devil performs these days but I think he would be quite fitting. Perhaps if Hitler was alive he could paint them some pictures.

                I’m not trying to dictate who performs for the Amazon execs, just that whoever it is isn’t getting my money.

                You know who does get my money, based on their moral fortitude and beliefs. Someone like Macklemore. I will support people whose beliefs align with mine.

                I really don’t know how I can be any clearer than that and I find it staggering that I have to defend myself in here, but you are fine with FF performing for execs from one of the most parasitic companies in the planet. If FF and Amazon can do what they want without recourse then so can I no?

                Let me ask you this. Do you just not care if you contribute to the worst aspects of society? Would you ever not give a company your money if it’s something you want?

                I forgo a lot of purchases as I can only find them on Amazon. I’ll pay more to buy things elsewhere. I don’t support McD, I try to avoid nestle as much as humanly possible. I left Facebook over a decade ago when they did nothing about rampant misinformation. I don’t support Weatherspoons in the UK over how they treated staff during Covid. I wouldn’t bank with Barclays as they invest in Israel etc.

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                  You’re standing a moral trapdoor. If you’re going to blame Foo Fighters for taking Amazon’s money, you’re going to have hold morality against every other artist on Amazon Music. Every artist selling physical media on Amazon. Every artist participating in any Amazon sponsored summer music events. Every last one of them.

                  Provided you manage to do that, rid your musical world of every artist attached to Amazon, go for Ticketmaster next.

                  Then go for the ones who allow Budweiser, Miller Lite, or Deathwater to be sold at their venues. All of them are produced by corporate behemoths killing this planet.

                  Moving forward from there, we could start breaking out all the shitty record labels you should have issues with, before going onto any band that has performed with an instrument made from a questionable source of wood (ahem…).

                  If this what you’re willing to burn your fandom over, I feel sorry for you. I hated that Pearl Jam caved to Ticketmaster, but it didn’t change my opinion of their music.

                  It’s the music that speaks to you. You’re the one allowing some odious sense of morality about corporate contact take it away from you.

                  What in the hell is rock & roll about that?

                  And for the record, I don’t even like the fucking Foo Fighters. They sold out long ago.

                  I give money to musicians who make music that speaks to me & I’m for sure as shit not going to let a corporation get in the way of that.

                  If Jeff Bezos wanted to give Widespread Panic $50k for a show, I’d support it. Why? Because John Bell directly supports Hannah’s Buddies, Dave Schools & Jerry Joseph have supported an organization bringing guitars and lessons into war torn communities in the Middle East, because JoJo supports musicianship rebounding from Katrina, especially in communities of color.

                  If Jeff Bezos wants to give a band I like a metric shitton of money, I feel relatively at ease in assuming they’ll do something better with that money for society than Bezos ever will.

                  But go on you. You keep fighting that good fight… hope you can still a find a band that isn’t tainted.

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        This post and all the threads are concerning. This is either being heavily moderated to appear this way, tons of bots or maybe I need to just unsubscribe from this community. WTF

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          Keep in mind the prevailing sentiments of any post are heavily influenced by who shows up first. In this case, a number of people showed up with opinions antagonistic to your beliefs. It’s not necessarily representative of the community, just the majority of the people in the comment section at that time. Those with beliefs that run contrary to the prevailing theme in the comment section may decide just not to comment instead of being involved in conflict, further reinforcing the bias.

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      Didn’t he and the band literally promote AIDs conspiracy theories at concerts?

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        You are correct. 24 years ago the bassist got the band involved in the Alive and Well charity for nearly three years. The band decided they didn’t agree with the charity’s claims and quietly split ways.

        So pretty much hitler /s

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          Yeah NBD at all! Lol

          Imagine stanning for such a mid band

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        Wow, such an exhaustive list you’ve put together. On behalf of everyone, i sincerely thank you for your service.

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          I have no skin in this game dude, I don’t hate Dave Grohl suddenly. I just think this performance was incredibly tacky. You’re way too defensive about this.

          He’s a performer. Who he performs for does matter to some degree. If he played Trump’s inauguration, for instance, people would rightfully judge the decision.

          It’s not like he needs the money at this point. He can be a little more discerning.

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      I see. Easier with bootlicking champ… Why is u worshiping another man like this. Its uncouth