• _MusicJunkie@beehaw.org
      46·
      5 months ago

      Two things can be true at the same time. Palestine is a horrible place for us queer folks, and Israel is committing atrocities against the Palestinian population.

      • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
        41·
        5 months ago

        Did I accidentally post on r/conservative?

        What kind of person accuses queer people in Seoul of “virtue signalling” for expressing support of Palestine? This isn’t the government or a corporation, but genuine people at Pride (in a location btw where it takes a massive amount of courage to be openly queer – my cousin is from Seoul)

        • JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works
          7·
          5 months ago

          I understand the situation there is horrible, I’m definitely on the side that hopes for a free Palestine like any sensible person, but combining queer and LGBT+ with the situation simply is showing a deeper ignorance.

          The situation they’re under is entirely separate from the LGBT+ movement, and the violence and oppression LGBT people have faced in Palestine for countless years has been well documented.
          These are two different things and it simply makes no sense to combine them together. This is why I’m saying they’re simply virtue signalling, using the situation to appear morally at the top despite the two things not being able to coincide together.

          You can’t just bunch up all social issues as one, they have different objectives and intended outcomes.

  • MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de
    4·
    5 months ago

    Can we stop linking all issues together?

    Everybody’s saying that we need to break down big tasks into small tasks to get stuff done and then do this. How is anything going to happen if its all or nothing? Maybe just push for pride here and push for other stuff elsewhere.

    Sometimes you need to work with different people for different issues, who oppose your other issues. This is just making more opposition with no actual goal.

    Like what is the message of “No Pride in Genocide?” Getting concessions from Israel? LMAO NO. There’s just not gonna be any pride.

    Stop linking everything, get some concrete goals to push for and go step by step.

    • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
      13·
      5 months ago

      “Can we just stop talking about genocide – have you considered the genocidaires have feewings too?”

      L

      Edit: I’d strongly encourage everyone to please read Mare’s comment history. It’s … really something else. A lot of downplaying the fact that the US and Israel are committing a genocide.

    • Jack Riddle@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      5 months ago

      Can we stop being intersectional? Can we stop doing other things? Can we stop caring about issues? Can we regress? Can we regress? Can we regress?