For once the Supreme Court makes the right call. Broken clocks and whatnot.
Is it the right call? What was the reason for the denial? Bump stocks are a work around to automatic laws isn’t it?
The problem is the laws regulating automatics are absolutely idiotic, and automatic weapons are 100% legal to own, just kind of expensive. Not like “need to be a multi-millionaire” expensive, but “can afford to pay cash for a late-model used car”.
Like most of our half-assed regulations, it doesn’t actually do anything other than making it pay to play. We don’t actually want to do anything that might prevent cops and their buddies from having a monopoly on force, so basically every gun law is moot for them anyway, even if they’re buying them as private citizens.
That’s one of the biggest concerns I have with the way we regulate firearms (among many other things) in the US, because they clearly aren’t made with a mindset of “X thing is bad for society as a whole, we need to do something about it”, it’s "X thing is totally fine if you’re in our special club, but the plebs are not allowed to have it.
Being “anti-gun” is almost universally actually just being “pro-gun-but-only-for-the-state” when you sit down and analyze it
When the police and army disarm themselves, then we’ll talk
I was initially against the ruling, but you just convinced me. The broken clock really was right this time.
The ban on bump stocks was implemented using the Firearms’ Owners Protection Act of 1986. Which was signed into law by Reagan (funny how a failed assassination will change things).
The text at issue is
SEC. 109. AMENDMENT OF NATIONAL FIREARMS ACT. (a) Section 58450)) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(b)) is amended by striking out “any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun,” and inserting in lieu thereof “any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun,”
IMO the majority in this decision is choosing to blatantly ignore the text of the act which was clearly chosen to future-proof for any advancement which would result in an effortless high rate of fire such as bump stock and super safety. Instead they are insisting that Congress must amend the law to include specific parts which of course is a losing battle as there will always be a new part that achieves an effortless high rate of fire.
Now where one could argue that this ruling is correct is the accepted definition of a machinegun requires a single trigger action.
Any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger
Personally I think the laws should be amended to define weapons and munitions by their result (high or continuous rate of fire) instead of their form or function. As it stands, someone could create a weapon that simply fires continuously but does not resemble a gun in any other way. Would such a weapon be a machinegun if it doesn’t even have a trigger?
I think the dissenting opinion was more inline with the intent of FOPA.
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
the whole premise of this right is that we can’t trust the government to keep our liberty safe because they could become the tyrants. if one day some religious idiot comes into power who doesn’t want women learning math, you may end up glad that conservatives have made it easier for women to fight for their liberty by refusing to allow these rights to be eroded
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
And yet, it’s the would-be tyrants who are armed to the teeth.
this is why more young feminists need to support gun ownership and learn how to use weapons
women should be able to choose what they want to wear, the type of weapons they want to own, and what to do with their bodies
the NRA needs to stop being thought of as conservative and liberals need to embrace the NRA
Why are you insisting we turn everything into an active war zone
Guns are for weak people who want to feel powerful.
guns are for vulnerable people who want to ensure their own safety.
Nice theory, but owning a gun makes you less safe, not more. You are way more likely to be hurt by your own gun than successfully using it to defend yourself.
you don’t know my circumstances or anyone else’s.
It has nothing to do with circumstances, it’s plain statistics. Look up the numbers.
I agree with the first part. It was supposed to be a check and balance to government power and oppression. It gives people the power to fight back against injustice.
However, in the time of intercontinental missiles, planes, tanks, and remote operated drones, are a bunch of peasants with guns actually going to do anything if the government turned on its people? Does the “right to bear arms” not extend to other, non-gun weapons?
Guns would at least cause some difficulty oppressing people.
you get it
Gun owners are literally the most cowardly people on the planet
Yous are scared of your own fucking shadows
“Whatcha scared of, coward?” “Uh, just other cowards is all” 😂
I don’t own a gun. I’m from a country where it’s not an option. To assume makes an ASS out of u and me.
Your point is bullshit. Not all people are good. Rapists exist. Serial killers exist. I’d like some options if I ever ran into one.
Imagine a world in which men could not own guns…
But women and intersex persons were given as many guns as they wanted for free.
What would it be like?
Probably better.
yes, only people with the luxury of owning guns could not understand the terror of being unarmed
just because conservatives fight for a right doesn’t mean it’s bad. this is the 1 thing conservatives are right about
the problem is liberals don’t take this as opportunity to promote more female gun ownership and tactical training. a society of armed women is a society of women who will learn math and possess their own bodies
Afghanistan.
If ever there was a case for “more guns = more freedom”, right?
Taliban or not, the peasants made it impossible for both Russia and the US to hold for any period of time using a pretty ancient rifle.
I think the IEDs, suicide bombers, and RPGs made a bigger difference in both cases
Well, of course it wasn’t just the rifle. But my point was that low-tech armaments (and terrain to an extent) didn’t make it a walk in the park no matter how high-tech your military. You still have to hold it.
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
Don’t you have that backwards? Gun ownership is a luxury enjoyed by an enfranchised society enjoyed exclusively by people who don’t feel threatened?
Because I remember a whole era of us domestic policy that revolved around targeting POC and other marginalized groups with gun regulation, while letting white nationalist groups run rampant.
Gun rights strike me as a political fiction. You only really get to enjoy them if you’re not threatened by over-policing. As soon as you start asserting those rights against a government bureaucrat, they vanish.
i think there should be zero regulations on POC owning guns and all POC should have a natural right to ownership
I’ll remind my daughter next time she calls me having a panic attack during an active shooter lockdown that at least she still has the right to
love who she wantsmake her own reproductive healthcare choicesget IVF if she can’t have kidsbe open and honest about who she isBro thinks meal team six is going to stop the government lol. They are already taking our liberties. Why didn’t guns save us during banning abortion? Why are guns not helping us defend our freedom of speech? Do you think some random authoritarian fucks are legitimately willing to fight the government over political differences? What liberties have they not taken already, or that they cannot take? If in some unrealistic scenario where the boomers won a small fight in some small town, do you think the government would just let them be? Do you not think the authoritarian fucks would use their guns to defend the government vs fight against it? They already use their votes to suppress our liberties, I have no doubt they’d choose to use their guns too.
Religious tyrants have gotten into power, they are forcing women into service as incubators. Nobody sane has taken up arms against the government. It is the “conservatives” who are fighting at the ballot box to erode our liberties and human rights.
“Conservatives” want to elect an openly racist demagogue who already committed a putsch and is asking SCOTUS to hand him a Long Knife.
LOL “conservatives” refusing to allow rights to be eroded. Yeah buddy, the women are going to force their way into math class holding the teacher at gunpoint.
things are bad now. it doesnt mean they cant get worse
I agree. Hopefully people don’t vote for the “conservatives” who do keep making everything worse.
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
This is a complete fiction, a true American mythology that exists in the modern day.
The right to bear arms was more about homestead defense against indigenous natives and foreign invading armies than it was for any kind of poison pill for Americans to topple their own government if they woke up one day and decided they don’t like who’s in charge anymore. The very notion that the founders would set up a new system of governance but be okay with the idea of baking in gun ownership rights to ensure that the people will always be able to conduct a violent insurrection as the vehicle for regime change is absurd.
Everybody likes to ignore the “well-regulated militia” part of that amendment, conveniently ignoring that a well regulated militia would answer to the state or the federal government, the very force of tyranny that they claim they need the guns to defend themselves against.
Bumpstocks are oldshit in comparison to “super safeties.” They push the trigger forward after you shoot. So you just squeeze, and you get quick individual trigger pulls at close to an automatic rate. It’s also easier to aim. Also, it’s a tiny piece you can 3d print. Also, I’m NOT linking it.
Hellfire triggers too…
Thanks stranger! I love Hoffman Tactical.
He said it, not me. I’d post it, but I like my dog.
“The ban was imposed by the Trump administration”
But please, gun enthusiasts, tell me again about how Biden is going to take away all of your guns any day now whereas Trump is 2A all the way.
Biden and the dems are not 2a friendly…but neither is any repub or trumpers. Both are true.
Rich people want to take away the ability of us poor commoners to resist their oppression and defend ourselves.
Yup, we all fight eaxh other for table scraps while they eat the full meal. Our fight shouldn’t be us vs each other. It should be us vs them.
Edit: who the fuck is down voting this lol