• not_that_guy05@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Boys and girls, I hope you are ready to either fight or flight from the US. It’s coming and people are apathetic to what is happening.

    “Why would the Germans allow Nazis to take over?” Well here it is. History will repeat itself thanks to the Nazis allowed to move to the US and the racists.

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      3 months ago

      Regarding flight: where to? Of similar “democracies” Europe and Canada have similarly troubling trends. Scandinavia? Australia? SE Asia? Are they any better, really?

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        Fight it is. Would still recommend flight for the young and old that can’t fight. I know my only option and my wife knows the plans in place. As a vet, I know what I need to protect and that’s no man/woman in the white house, but the constitution that has given so much to my family.

        Never thought growing up that I would need to do such a thing.

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          Fellow vet, hoped to be done fighting, but this country is devolving into madness, and I’m prepared to fight for the constitution. I took an oath, as all that served did, to defend this country from all enemies, foreign or domestic, and I took that oath to heart. Hope for the best, prepared for the worst.

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      And we have a hell of a lot better system for fighting back than the Germans did. And a lot better precedent to shed light on why to resist it. And, the Nazis were famously sort of clownish and incompetent especially in the early days but compared with Rudy Giuliani and Mike Lindell they were fuckin Seal Team 6.

      If the MAGA folks bring fascism for real to the US, it will be the Americans’ fault that they let it happen.

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        The party that is supposed to be fighting nazis is so devoted to incrementalism that they won’t do enough until it’s too late.

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          If there’s one thing Milton Mayer keeps coming back to, it’s how it was all the fault of the establishment German political parties of the early 1930s for not being more motivating of people to vote for them, and no one on an individual level needs to do anything until they do first. He keeps harping on that central point: If a dangerous political movement arises in your country, it’s okay to hang out and wait and not resist it until the alternative is sufficiently awesome for your tastes. It’s pretty much the central theme of his whole book.

          (I mean, honestly, I don’t disagree with you that the general crappiness of most of the Democrats from about 1992 up to and including 2016 laid some abundant groundwork for the rise of Trump. That doesn’t mean it is safe for anyone in the world to let Trump come to power again this year.)

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            If there’s one thing Milton Mayer keeps coming back to, it’s how it was all the fault of the establishment German political parties of the early 1930s for not being more motivating of people to vote for them, and no one on an individual level needs to do anything until they do first. He keeps harping on that central point: If a dangerous political movement arises in your country, it’s okay to hang out and wait and not resist it until the alternative is sufficiently awesome for your tastes. It’s pretty much the central theme of his whole book.

            And as always, you decide that I’ve said something I haven’t.

            I mean, honestly, I don’t disagree with you that the general crappiness of most of the Democrats from about 1992 up to and including 2016 laid some abundant groundwork for the rise of Trump.

            They didn’t stop in 2016.

            That doesn’t mean it is safe for anyone in the world to let Trump come to power again this year.

            Didn’t say it was.