• Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    A hardcore second amendment voter will usually resist any and all measures that restrict firearm possession, often on the basis of slippery slope arguments. Since the basis is rooted in a classic logical fallacy, they can be very difficult to persuade.

    You’re right though, Biden has been fairly moderate on gun control. So was Obama though, and you remember how they reacted to him?

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      Obama signed legislation which expanded gun rights and allowed concealed carry in national parks.

      Republicans spent his next 2 terms saying Obama will ban access to guns…

      None of this is based in reality.

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      I agree about gun zealotry, but if those are your two issues:

      1. Biden has said he does not want to restrict most guns, but he does want to protect children.

      Trump instituted gun control measures over his administration, and as with everything else has said he supports gun control and says he doesn’t support gun control depending on which crowd he’s talking to.

      I guess you can consider that a wash.

      1. But racial Justice? Clearly Biden all the way.

      On those two points, biden’s clearly ahead.

      If that guy is still undecided, then he cares significantly more about guns than he cares about racial justice or national leadership.

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        Well, I am not that guy for the record. But if you read the article it said he automatically rejects any candidate that advocates for gun control. So, that means Biden is flat out for him, along with pretty much the whole dem party.

        The amusing part to me personally was that such a person would normally just vote gop. But that specific guy cannot, for fairly obvious reasons.

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          Biden advocates for gun control and restricted gun access.

          Dumps advocates for gun control and restricted gun access.

          I think people just assume dumps is pro second amendment since he switched to the Republicans.

          Ah well.

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            5 months ago

            Trump did more than that; he advocated for simply seizing guns without due process. He’s worse than Biden from a second amendment perspective, not equal!

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      5 months ago

      Why the fuck would a hardcore second amendment voter ever consider supporting Donald “take the guns first” Trump, though‽