I thought we already knew that he was selling pardons.
Yes, but now he could do it legally (well full immunity making legality mute).
Hey, just FYI, the term is actually “moot”.
Not trying to be rude, I just I know I prefer to be told about stuff like this ❤️
I thought it was “moo.”
naw. that’s when legality needs less cowbell
It’s a cow’s opinion. It’s moo.
He made sense there
Less cowbell? How am I supposed to cure my fever?
Yes but now he can be even more explicit about it, put it right in official communications.
Now fortified with immunity! A part of a complete
breakfastautocracy.And wasn’t it basically already legal? I don’t think there’s a lot of regulation around it (at least as codified in law, I know in the last few decades presidents deferred to a vetting process through DOJ, but none of that is mandatory).
wouldn’t they be called “indulgences”?
Good question. Someone could write a thesis or two about it.
And nail it to the doors of the Capitol
No, Trump needs to brand everything. There’s be Trumpulgences, or Trumpdons.
Price: your help in overthrowing the American government for me.
Line forms on the right.
He has stated that he wants to pardon everyone for Jan 6th, and will likely pardon anyone willing to be his militia against the Left/immigrants. The Supreme Court has thrown gas on how fast they are going to be able to go through the whole Project 2025 playbook.
And all the people saying “but the lower courts get to decide if it’s an official act” are ignoring the fact that the courts are so slow it won’t even matter, all the damage will be long done
If it makes you feel any better, with the age of these two candidates and the speed of the courts it’s likely that it didn’t actually matter before the ruling. They’re not exactly consequences if they happen after you’ve died peacefully of old age.
Trump dying before everything hits the fan and resolves would be an unmitigated catastrophe.
One of the major saving graces about this quite credible attempt by fascistic forces to take over the US is that Trump is at the helm, and he is literally one of the planet’s most incompetent and unlikable humans.
If the whole machinery gets set up as well as it is right now, and then someone who’s capable of doing more than being the world’s biggest asshole and thief gets in charge of it, then God help us, for real.
And Mr. Kiriakou was separately told that Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani could help him secure a pardon for $2 million. Mr. Kiriakou rejected the offer, but an associate, fearing that Mr. Giuliani was illegally selling pardons, alerted the F.B.I. Mr. Giuliani challenged this characterization.
2021
wont someone rid us of this orange turd
A cursory reading of the decision (PDF), and most reporting on it do suggest that it allows the president to sell pardons. Clarity that it does not can be found in a footnote, which reads in part:
JUSTICE BARRETT disagrees, arguing that in a bribery prosecution, for instance, excluding “any mention” of the official act associated with the bribe “would hamstring the prosecution.” … But of course the prosecutor may point to the public record to show the fact that the President performed the official act. And the prosecutor may admit evidence of what the President allegedly demanded, received, accepted, or agreed to receive or accept in return for being influenced in the performance of the act… What the prosecutor may not do,however, is admit testimony or private records of the President or his advisers probing the official act itself.
