• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    AIPAC is a foreign actor and shouldn’t be allowed to make political contributions.

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      3 months ago

      And even if they’re allowed, they should be treated by Democrats like a donation from the Kochs. They’re a billionaire funded pro-Republican group. Anyone who works with them should be shunned.

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      3 months ago

      Agreed, but also: if I were in their district (Bush or Bowman), I might even consider voting Republican out of spite.

      Yes, AIPAC is to blame, but Democrats also need to grow a spine against AIPAC. They can’t just take progressive voters for granted.

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        3 months ago

        That’s a stupid fucking idea. “I don’t like the pizza toppings you ordered, so I’m going to punch myself in the testicles. That will show you.”

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    I keep telling people, the AIPAC dollars are why you will never see a strong stand against Israel and nobody ever believes me…

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      3 months ago

      “Nobody ever believes me”

      2:37pst - 82 upvotes, 2 downvotes

      I don’t know about that. Seems like a lot of people believe you here.

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        They might be referring to people they see IRL. Like family or friends. I’m pretty sure, though, that those are made up things. Like birds and Finland.

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    3 months ago

    From a slight bit of hope yesterday back into the reality of israel owning American politics.

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    People were talking a lot about AIPAC money when Bowman lost his primary, but he lost with 41.3% to his opponent’s 58.7%. It was a wipe-out because he was genuinely unpopular after making a series of unforced blunders. I’m sure that he would have lost, although perhaps not by so much, even with no AIPAC spending.

    Now Bush lost with 46% to Bell’s 51%. That’s not nearly as one-sided as Bowman’s loss, but I still find it strange that commentators are so quick to dismiss the ability of the people of St. Louis to make their own decisions. Maybe they were actually able to think for themselves, consider the two candidates, and pick the one they preferred rather than being led like sheep?

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      3 months ago

      The idea that money is unimportant in influencing votes is quite a take.

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      3 months ago

      Alternative theory:

      Being pro-Israel and anti-Netenyahu, and pro-Palestinian and anti-Homicidal death cult, is actually really popular amongst people who vote at the ballot box instead of voting online ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          It’s not even news, in that, it’s not new, they’ve been around for years. A friend of mine went into the West Bank camps a while ago and struggled to find people who hadn’t been arrested, beaten/tortured. Every day the IDF go in and take 5-10 people for no reason at all.

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            It’s happened since Israel’s creation. Next time an apologist tells you how the Palestinians left willingly, ask them about the Deir Yassin massacre.

            From 5:00 A.M. until about 11:00 A.M. there was a systematic slaughter, with them going from house to house. From the eastern edge of the village nobody came out unhurt. Whole families were slaughtered. At 6:00 in the morning they caught 21 young people from the village, about 25 years old, they stood them in a row, near where the post-office is today, and executed them. Many women who watched this horrifying spectacle went crazy, and some are in institutions to this day. A pregnant woman, who was coming back with her son from the bakery, was murdered and her belly was smashed, after her son was killed before her eyes. In one of the conquered village houses a Bren machine gun was set up, which shot everyone who got in its line of fire. My cousin went out to see what happened to his uncle, who was shot a few minutes before, and he was killed too. His father, who went out after him, was murdered by the same Bren, and the mother, who came to find out what happened to her loved ones, died beside them. Aish eydan, who was a guard in Givat Shaul, came to see what was happening, and he was killed.

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      3 months ago

      This comment, and other similar ones by Downpunxx are being mass reported.

      People seem to think we have a “bad language” ban. We don’t. You can say whatever you want about the SUBJECT OF AN ARTICLE.

      Directing it at other users gets a comment removed. Slurs are also removed. There is nothing actionable here, you can stop reporting it.