• kevindqc@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I haven’t used the app in a while and opened it and saw this… Well never buying Anova again

    But hey at least they gave me a coupon that expired two months ago.

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      3 months ago

      Imagine seeing that message and buying another product from them.

      “It’s time to artificially create waste. Don’t worry, you won’t see this message again. Our new cookers are designed to not last 10 years.”

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      3 months ago

      I can’t imagine why these things even need an app.

      You have to set the thing up with water and all, just hit the buttons on the device.

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    3 months ago

    Wait

    “Our community has literally cooked 100s of millions of times with our app. Unfortunately, each connected cook costs us money.”

    The cooker, It’s FUCKING Bluetooth. It doesn’t need to call home, it can’t call home. The App, It has a list of 35 different sous vide recipes that could live on the app. The app has no business calling home, they don’t need a server.

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      3 months ago

      And if each did cost them money - they’ve been paid when the stupid thing was purchased!

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        3 months ago

        Yeah, it’s a $200 heater. Probably $30 in parts. You can run a small cluster for the profit in a few sales a month.

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      3 months ago

      It’s a cooker. Why the hell does it even need bluetooth, let alone an internet connection?

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      3 months ago

      They need if they were to push firmware updates via the app that are then installed over Bluetooth, like some headphones do. But that should be a free service, and also optional. I don’t really see any groundbreaking functionality added for a device that’s basically a submerged motor with a temperature probe.

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        3 months ago

        It’s a decade old cooking appliance .

        What possible firmware updates could it need at this point?

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    3 months ago

    I have never bought an appliance or physical product that requires an app to use, and I never will until our society has deteriorated to the the point where there is no alternative to that in order to get by in it. It’s almost at that point already with smartphones but for now it’s still possible to get by without one.

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      3 months ago

      Same. I’ve been thinking of replacing the cheap immersion circulator we have, and was going to go with Anova. This blatant enshittification is enough to make me look elsewhere.

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    3 months ago

    I passed on a lot of the fancier apartment buildings for requiring an app and a cell phone to gain access to your own home. I shouldn’t have to agree to an arbitration/class action waiver to use my own front door, I don’t feel comfortable with management getting a notification on their phone every time I come or go, I don’t like the fact that 20+ listed partner companies have access to sensitive personal data, and I shouldn’t have to wait for maintenance to show up in the middle of the night because I couldn’t make it back home before my personal tracking device died on me.

    The sad thing is that most of these locking units cost these apartments hundreds of dollars each on top of a monthly subscription.

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    I personally think it’s perfectly reasonable for a company to eventually start charging for a service they provide that costs them money to provide. They might bakenin some number of years into the product price, but they can’t keep providing the service for free forever.

    It seems like something that should be expected if we do want certain services to be provided and maintained. Heck, I also think that offering a subscription is better than the usual alternative, which is that the company just shuts the service down.

    However, the way this is done is almost always slimy and shitty and likely is only going to get solved by regulation.

    • It’s incredibly rare that IOT devices NEED cloud integration. Most of the time it really SHOULD just be local-only, or have a local option.
    • If they are going to start charging for something to continue to work, unless there was already an explicit agreement that - and when - this would happen, they need to provide an alternative.
      • Either documentation or open software for how an alternate cloud - including local - could be used instead.
    • That info really should be mandatory to be made available beforehand in case the company shuts down.
    • The subscription fee needs to be reasonable.
      • Personally, I think $24/year is still far too much, but it’s still WAY more reasonable than some I’ve seen.

    Should be a no-brainer.

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      3 months ago

      Thing is they needed to factor this j to the cost of selling the device.

      It basically costs them nothing to ru the service for this device. If they failed to calculate that as part of the sale price, that’s not the consumers fault.

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    3 months ago

    I will never throw a brick through the headquarters of Anova, nor would I advocate for others doing it.

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    I bet the app requires cloud hosting for it to run, and its starting to eat away at the profits they made.

    If it needs nothing but bluetooth, then this a pure money grab.

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      Usually, if it needs cloud hosting, it’s because they’re collecting your data. That presumably is a revenue stream for them.

      I have one of these, and I haven’t touched the app. Works perfectly fine without it.

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    Oh ffs… This is the one I have…

    And, you know what? The firmware sucks.

    You can’t even connect to wifi if you have two AP’s with the same name (which is literally everyone).

    I haven’t even installed the app in ages because it’s a PITA and has never worked 100%.

    But, they can guarantee my next one won’t be an anova again. There are much cheaper alternatives now

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      3 months ago

      “Be evil so they have to stomp us out” shouldn’t be a standard. Stop allowing a world that rewards villains. Stop being a villain.

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        Coulda woulda shoulda…

        People either accept the reality and act on it or keep getting fucked over because the world “shouldn’t work like this”