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    11 days ago

    A bunch of vegans said they feed their pets only vegan food, whilst they are carnivores. Mod stopped the conv to prevent animal abuse.

    Some Vegans got angry.

    I agree with mods, last thing we need here are echo chambers for dangerous information






  • It’s not a common scenario probably.

    But I felt at least one admin was so focused on protecting at least 1 minority, that they were willing to overlook bad behavior by some of them. Or maybe they knew that if they told them to act better that the community would see them as a threat

    In fact, the person who exclaimed that I “wanted to kill the entire minority” simply because I didn’t 100% agree with one thing also I realized colored my opinion early of the rest of Lemmy on another thread by calling it a cesspool

    It’s actually the opposite. People are free to discuss on other servers, and I realize that lots of the thing that person was saying, was actually bad for discussions except in a way that benefits them directly (even disregarding other people in their minority).

    The crazy part is I have plenty of friends who are part of that minority lol

    They were a mod too, so over time, some of these communities will only develop stronger and stronger opinions which are self reinforcing and rise to the top in these safe spaces and basically become another femaledatingstrategy like environment


  • That doesn’t mean she supports it. There’s evidence that even with Biden there were things potentially happening in the background to try to stop it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-03/israel-accepts-joe-bidens-gaza-ceasefire-proposal/103926614

    Trump literally asked Russia publicly to find dirt on Hillary to win and praises dictators constantly.Kamala isn’t praising dictators.

    If Trump went to court for every crime he committed, he would have no time to campaign. In fact, with lawsuits they likely have to compress them and limit the contents to the worst offenders to facilitate their processing time.

    You haven’t heard even a small number of crimes that Mafia don has committed. But a guy who goes and laughs on social media when one of his followers attacked pelosis husband obviously supports assault.

    So just to clarify, Trump = actual criminal who uses violence to gain power Kamala = normal person

    You’re also assuming that Trump will end the war. He won’t. He’ll do what he normally does and just shout at both parties. If he gets forced out of office, he’ll sabotage the next president

    Walz in particular is ex military and I seriously doubt he is pro war either. There might be stuff happening in the background again we don’t know about (Trump will brag in public about every single thing he does, but sometimes negotiations require the opposite). It’s similar to criminal investigations which take a long time


  • I’ve heard evidence that it was a fairly toxic community there anyway.

    We should be careful to avoid creating communities that are echo chambers. Ie, it should be a community discussing veganism, not a vegan safe space where people abuse you if you disagree

    Otherwise, in 5 years time you end to with scenarios similar to reddit or on beehaw

    I left beehaw because I half agreed with the community, someone in a “safe space” abused me, and a beehaw admin overlooked that abuse and instead insisted I was starting a flight (simply because I didn’t 100% agree with the community it seemed)

    We also risk scenarios where vaping or drug communities could grow and become toxic in the same way. We also should be as scientific as possible and avoid becoming Facebook.

    I’m not sure about the cat thing, but to me, it seems like it could at least be used as animal abuse





  • What people don’t realize, is that Miguel de Icaza actually started gnome and mono.

    Xamarin got acquired by Microsoft.

    I’m so tired of watching the community crap on every company which donates open source (I’ve been watching for 25 years at least now). Even Redhat which basically is a major factor to the survival of Linux is getting crapped on. Systemd developers, etc.

    If people are genuinely interested in Linux growing, they need a positive community. Because developers like myself mostly stopped providing free code (as a hobbyist developer) because whilst finding help is difficult, it’s not hard to find people willing to abuse you and your projects unfortunately

    Even the VLC developers can’t escape the abuse




  • Mate. I don’t even use Windows anymore lol

    And I started a few open source projects and contributed to a lot of them.

    This is why Linux still isn’t gaining market share because for 25 years I’ve been watching the community scare off developers and treat them like crap. It happens constantly.

    You’re not giving anyone any incentive to assist

    In all likelihood they donated this code because it doesn’t benefit them anymore or became a burden. The developers aren’t sitting there thinking “mmm, this is gonna make us so popular”.

    Did you know the guy who stayed mono is actually the guy who started gnome? They got acquired by Microsoft.


  • I never saw the thread, but based on what I’m hearing, it’s animal abuse.

    If you look at Reddit and Facebook they’ve both been mostly consumed by anti science communities which put people in real danger

    We see communities like this create an echo chamber which grows and make it impossible to argue sanely.

    The fact is, I have seen some increasingly toxicity in some vegan (and some other) communities on Lemmy too. And it is one reason why I left beehaw. Because they allow toxic communities to flourish (as long as they were driven by a minority).

    I’d even go as far as the behavior of some of these communities look like femaledatingadvice/thedonald on Reddit slowly. It’s ok to have disagreements, but nobody and no animals should be put at risk.