US: New York University adopts measures declaring 'Zionists' a protected class
www.middleeasteye.net
Pro-Palestinian groups say move is 'dangerous precedent' that equates Zionism with Judaism

Word on the street is NYU plans to make “Nazi” a protected class next.

      • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyzEnglish
        112·
        3 months ago

        even if the un werent overwhelmingly biased and laughably ineffective, you are appealing to authority instead of answering the relevant accusation of genocide. i will go further and say if one’s right to exist is dependent on stealing land and murdering the inhabitants on any scale, let alone the scale in practice by israel, that claim of right to exist is the merest rhetoric justifying the most blatant and obvious and atrocious crimes against nature and humanity i have seen in my lifetime.

        • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
          410·
          3 months ago

          No, you’re employing a Red Herring to distract from the fact the question is “what is zionists being a protected class based on?”

          Zionist /= pro-genocide. One can simultaneously believe Israel has a right to exist without supporting how they’ve behaved of late. In fact, this insertion of ‘but genocide’ as a de facto justification for all pro-zionist hate only supports my point.

          • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyzEnglish
            82·
            3 months ago

            its not a red herring, the positive argument has yet to be made on your part: on what basis should zionism be a protected class?

            i feel like the genocide practiced by and supported by zionists is sufficient justification for an anti-zionist stance. it is certainly sufficient for an anti-nazi stance: can you imagine someone saying “the insertuon of someone saying ‘but genocide’ to justify pro -nazi hate only supports my point.” in that context? thats what you sound like to me. you sound like a nazi supporter dancing around their de facto support of genocide.

            • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
              37·
              3 months ago

              I agree that anti-zionist should be a protected class too. Both sides are subject to false projections and hate and should be protected.

              • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyzEnglish
                41·
                3 months ago

                here i think we mostly agree, but students already have extra protections and responsibilities above the level of common citizens. what further protections and/or responsibilities are required here?

                • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
                  46·
                  3 months ago

                  Increase the consequences of actual hate speech to discourage it. In my eyes it is the root of all the horrors enacted in the past almost century. Keep the disagreement polite, without threats of violence from either side, and resolve this rationally so this BS can end.

                  Unfortunately nobody is incentivized to do this so the pinball machine keeps ding-a-linging daily…

      • CrayonMaster@midwest.socialEnglish
        82·
        3 months ago

        Either way, is calling a plotical stance a protected class normal in New York? It’s not anywhere else.

      • Deceptichum@quokk.auOPEnglish
        52·
        3 months ago

        The UN isn’t always perfect.

        The terrorists are the mass child murdering and raping scum in Israel.

        • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
          211·
          3 months ago

          The UN isn’t always perfect.

          Be sure to say this if they ever declare it a palestinian genocide.

          The terrorists are the mass child murdering and raping scum in Israel.

          This is why we remember 9/11, coming in 2 weeks. To remind those that desperately need it who the actual terrorists are.

          • Deceptichum@quokk.auOPEnglish
            82·
            3 months ago

            Be sure to say this if they ever declare it a palestinian genocide.

            Okay, I’ll gladly repeat that they were wrong about enabling a fascist ethnostate.

          • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyzEnglish
            32·
            3 months ago

            they havent seen fit to do that in the last 80+ years since they chartered the country on occupied territory. they have seen the deaths, looting, rapes, and so on over that time (all classified im sure youll be absolutely devastated to learn as terrorism, not that the word really means anything other than “enemy”) committed by the chosen people as it was committed unto them by the nazis in turn, folding their arms in callous disregard, and said, “the ends justify the means.”

            there can be more than one terrorist at a time. i dare say three or even four might be possible.