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    “The tragedy in Gaza is 100% on Hamas,” Fetterman wrote on social media with a screengrab of a Hill headline outlining Ocasio-Cortez’s remarks. “Stop using civilians and hospitals as shields, surrender, and release all remaining hostages—and this ends.”

    What a dismissive piece of shit.

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      You think CTE causes people to become assholes?

      A stroke like Fetterman’s often produces even larger personality changes. Sometimes it’s for the better, but often it tends to effect the forebrain where things like empathy and critical thinking happen. If it gets other parts in the hind brain that’s where you get the other stereotypical stroke symptoms of slurring speech and poor muscle control.

      Fettermen wasn’t perfect, but he wasn’t this huge of an asshole before the stroke

      It doesn’t excuse any of his shit behavior either. I just always think “why” is an important question when talking about someone’s behavior. Ironically enough when it happened Republicans called for him to resign and Dems blindly defended him. After the personality changes he’s Republicans favorite Dem and most of his own party hates him.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if he runs as a Republican next election.

      Edit:

      Guess I should have “more of an asshole”.

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        I think it probably has a lot more to do with the fact that pro Israel pacs gave him 250k. You’re just viewing the corruption in realtime

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          I could be wrong:

          But his stroke was before the primary.

          Did he take AIPAC money in the primary?

          Because if he took it for the general, that was a post stroke decision.

          Like I said, I don’t know, and I couldn’t find it anywhere, I may be wrong and he took it in the primary

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        The man got 250K from pro-Israel lobbyists. He’s in a position of authority and is being paid to endorse a specific viewpoint that is in direct violation of US and international humanitarian law. I’m not going to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

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          It’s not the benefit of the doubt.

          If a stroke changes you it changes you. If it makes you an asshole, it’s not just ok to be an asshole.

          Every other asshole also has a reason to be an asshole, recency doesn’t matter.

          But I legitimately don’t know if he took AIPAC money in the primary before the stroke. If he did, then yeah, he was already an asshole before the stroke. Doesn’t mean a stroke couldn’t make him a more blatant asshole. Lack of impulse control is also a common symptom, people lose their filter and that’s rarely a positive thing.

          It’s not excusing it, but we need to understand it so we learn how to deal with it and hopefully prevent the next person from being an asshole.

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            The man is able to connect the dots of receiving lobbying money and advocating for a certain position. He should be able to connect the dots of civilians dying, and saying that’s bad. Lots of people who suffer from strokes learn to control themselves and their personality changes. Fetterman just isn’t one of them.

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              We’re saying the same thing.

              An asshole is an asshole, it doesn’t matter what lead them down that path.

              Understanding why people are assholes is worth it because we learn how to deal with them, and maybe even prevent less people from becoming assholes later.

              Every society has X% of assholes, there’s never zero assholes, but it’s worth getting that number as low as possible.

              I think everyone agrees there’s more than there used to be, and would enjoy less assholes.

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                I see what you’re saying. My mistake, I misinterpreted your comment. You’re honestly a better person than me that would see someone have this kind of stance and say “Let’s see where they’re coming from”. To me, it’s just another asshole that society should not even have to tolerate.

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        This is who hes always been, but the only thing VBNMW liberals saw was that D in front of his name. We tried to warn them, but they always seem to know better

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      To be fair to the piece of shit Fetterman, he ran on a very progressive platform.

      Then he had that stroke and now he’s one of the least progressive members of Congress.

      The question is, was he always a lying sack of shit? Or did the stroke literally change his mind?

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        I really would like to see some studies on that topic “does cognitive decline skew your position to the right”. If it does it’s usually slowly over many years. But fetterman had a huge decline suddenly and basically in love with genocide now. (I still believe he didn’t think like that before).

        Would make sense in a way - stripping away all nuance from the world by means of deteriorating perception makes people only see good and bad or my team / their team.

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        I don’t think Sinema ever had a stroke and I believe she went from “progressive” into a piece of shit once she got elected, so I’m going with “he’s a lying piece of shit” as the more likely reason.

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    Fucking I don’t ever want to have a stroke and become like that douchebag. I wish I could get my $100 back that I donated to his campaign.

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      He’s a pretty big disappointment. Apparently always been a brat who does what he wants but… Like not at all what we were expecting from him. But now he’s elected so he’s free from having to care what he does for money.

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    Whoops, AOC just admitted she’s… checks notes a secret Trump supporter Russian bot in office because she cares about the deaths of children. At least according to most people on Reddit/Lemmy.

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      At least according to most people on Reddit/Lemmy.

      You’re the first person to make a connection between Lemmy, caring for something, and Trump/Russia. You trolling?

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        If you’ve never been called a trumpist or a russian on lemmy for opposing genocide, it’s because you’ve never opposed genocide on lemmy.

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          Yeah, actually amazing that the hasbara people bother with this tiny platform. It’s admittedly a small number of usernames that keep returning.

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          No one’s being called a trumpist or Russian because they oppose genocide, they’re being called that because they insist on pretending that splitting the vote in favor of the fascist party won’t make the genocide they claim to oppose even worse.

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            That doesn’t stand up to scrutiny when you’re talking about a tiny platform full of entrenched pro-genocide centrists. Who do you imagine this vast Russian conspiiiiiiiiiracy to say things centrists don’t like on lemmy is going to convert?

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              We’re not talking about a platform of entrenched pro-genocide centrists, we’re taking about a platform of predominantly leftists. Now, many of those leftist are capable of critical thinking, so they don’t just parrot every half-baked idea they hear just because the person saying it claims to be an Authentic Communist™.

              As to who it’s supposed to convert, that much is also obvious to any leftist with critical thinking skills: impressionable young idealists. Get them to refuse to support the “pro genocide centrists” out of a noble sense of justice, and the pro-genocide fascists clinch the win. Putin wins, Netanyahu wins, the military industrial complex wins, and those poor schmucks think they stuck it to the man while the fascists laugh their way into the White House.

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                We’re not talking about a platform of entrenched pro-genocide centrists

                Yes, we are. We’re talking about lemmy.

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                  Yes, Lemmy, predominantly leftist

                  a platform of predominantly leftists. Now, many of those leftists are capable of critical thinking, so they don’t just parrot every half-baked idea they hear just because the person saying it claims to be an Authentic Communist™.

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                have you done the leg work of letting your congress critters know you don’t support biden or harris on israel and that we need to implement an arms embargo? if not gtfo. until then I will continue to advocate people vote with their conscience. because I have done the work. biden/harris are blinking we need to push harder before the end of the month. I’m literally sitting here with my ballot waiting for harris to make an announcement prior to voting.

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                  have you done the leg work of letting your congress critters know you don’t support biden or harris on israel and that we need to implement an arms embargo?

                  Yes.

                  I will continue to advocate people vote with their conscience. because I have done the work.

                  And you don’t understand electoral strategy, clearly. My conscience won’t allow me to sit aside while the fascist party wins, increases support of Israel, and spearheads genocide at home and abroad.

                  Of course I would prefer a candidate that aligned perfectly with my ideals and stood a charge of winning. There is not one. The only rational voting strategy is to select whichever of the viable options is less bad. In this election, that is undeniably Harris.

                  This game of chicken you’re playing has literally never worked. Harris will not pivot of Palestine because you and a bunch of terminally online performative leftists. They’ll go to the middle to find moderates if they need to.

                  No one can compel you to vote rationally, but I will continue to remind you and the people that make the same ineffective argument: if you “win” and Harris loses, things get considerably worse for women, minorities, LGBT, Ukrainian and, yes, even Palestinians.

                  Neo-libs in a messy connection with AIPAC are by no means perfect, but they are objectively better than the fascists who live Netanyahu and want to help him finish the job in Palestine and nuke Iran. The only people claiming different are those same fascists, and their useful idiots.