• Vespair@lemm.ee
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    30 days ago

    Fun time to remind everyone that pigeons aren’t native to the Americas, and were brought over originally by the French primarily as a food source (although also as messengers; carrier pigeons).

    “Squab” on a menu is pigeon.

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    29 days ago

    I find it hilarious that my personal AI, that can run on even a budget gaming PC, is far more reliable than most of these corporate ones 100x the size

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      30 days ago

      This actually happens very frequently in the US. When hunters harvest a bird they report their kills in compliance with hunting regulations. If any of your birds have leg or neck bands you report that information as well. The bands have a tracking number on them, and scientists use them to monitor populations and migration patterns. It’s literally part of their plan.

      You get to keep the bands as well (I only have experience with banded geese and ducks). They’re a neat memento.

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      It would make an interesting footnote in the scientific article that had this pigeon in the experiment.

      “1 This pigeon was removed from the experiment as it was eaten by a local Florida Man.”

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      Do the search yourself you’ll see that you get a better answer.

      Question: How to clean a rescued pidgeon

      ChatGPT: Cleaning a rescued pigeon should be done carefully to avoid stressing or harming the bird. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you:

      1. Assess the Pigeon’s Condition Check for injuries: If the pigeon is injured, weak, or sick, it’s best to seek veterinary help before attempting to clean it. Observe behavior: If the pigeon is acting stressed or aggressive, you may need to wait until it calms down.
      2. Prepare the Cleaning Area Warm water: Fill a basin or sink with lukewarm water, not hot or cold. Mild soap: Use a gentle soap or baby shampoo without strong fragrances or chemicals. Towels: Have clean towels ready for drying the pigeon afterward.
      3. Handling the Pigeon Safely Wear gloves: This can protect both you and the bird. Secure hold: Hold the pigeon gently but firmly. Support its body with one hand and keep its wings close to its body to prevent flapping.
      4. Cleaning the Pigeon Partial cleaning: Focus on specific dirty areas rather than submerging the whole bird if possible. Use a damp cloth: For lightly soiled areas, use a damp cloth or sponge to wipe the feathers gently. Bath for heavier dirt: If a full wash is needed, place the pigeon in the water up to its chest. Avoid getting its head and neck wet unless absolutely necessary.
      5. Rinsing Rinse thoroughly: If you used soap, make sure to rinse all of it out of the feathers using clean, lukewarm water. Avoid the face: Be careful not to get water in the pigeon’s eyes, nose, or ears.
      6. Drying the Pigeon Pat dry: Gently pat the pigeon with a towel to remove excess water. Avoid rubbing as it could damage the feathers. Warm place: Keep the pigeon in a warm, draft-free area until it is completely dry. You can use a hairdryer on the lowest setting if the pigeon tolerates it, but keep it at a safe distance to avoid overheating.
      7. Post-Cleaning Care Observe behavior: Watch the pigeon for signs of stress or discomfort after the bath. Provide food and water: Ensure the pigeon has access to fresh water and a safe, comfortable place to rest. Additional Tips Do not use strong disinfectants or chemicals that can harm the bird’s sensitive skin and feathers. Limit baths to when absolutely necessary, as frequent cleaning can strip the natural oils from the pigeon’s feathers. If the pigeon seems injured or unwell, contact a wildlife rescue center or avian veterinarian for guidance.
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            30 days ago

            i think the point is that the answer is not reliable. it might be completely correct or borderline wrong, or something in between, and there’s no way to tell without verifying everything it says - and then one could look it up oneself in the first place already.

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              27 days ago

              Im no fan of generative ai, but this argument drives me crazy, there are a lot of things that are easy to verify but hard to come up with, quite famously in fact.

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              30 days ago

              If you’re using AI verbatim without looking up answers and verifying results, then that’s on you.

              When you Google something, do you take the first result and just assume it’s fact? You shouldn’t for AI either.

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              Same as most human iterations then?

              At least I fact check everything I read. Like I did with this post and the church of the anti-AI got angry they got fact checked.

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    30 days ago

    Just did the same question. Answer given to me was vastly different:

    Me:

    How to clean a rescued pidgeon

    ChatGPT:

    Cleaning a rescued pigeon should be done carefully to avoid stressing or harming the bird. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you:

    1. Assess the Pigeon’s Condition

    • Check for injuries: If the pigeon is injured, weak, or sick, it’s best to seek veterinary help before attempting to clean it.
    • Observe behavior: If the pigeon is acting stressed or aggressive, you may need to wait until it calms down.

    2. Prepare the Cleaning Area

    • Warm water: Fill a basin or sink with lukewarm water, not hot or cold.
    • Mild soap: Use a gentle soap or baby shampoo without strong fragrances or chemicals.
    • Towels: Have clean towels ready for drying the pigeon afterward.

    3. Handling the Pigeon Safely

    • Wear gloves: This can protect both you and the bird.
    • Secure hold: Hold the pigeon gently but firmly. Support its body with one hand and keep its wings close to its body to prevent flapping.

    4. Cleaning the Pigeon

    • Partial cleaning: Focus on specific dirty areas rather than submerging the whole bird if possible.
    • Use a damp cloth: For lightly soiled areas, use a damp cloth or sponge to wipe the feathers gently.
    • Bath for heavier dirt: If a full wash is needed, place the pigeon in the water up to its chest. Avoid getting its head and neck wet unless absolutely necessary.

    5. Rinsing

    • Rinse thoroughly: If you used soap, make sure to rinse all of it out of the feathers using clean, lukewarm water.
    • Avoid the face: Be careful not to get water in the pigeon’s eyes, nose, or ears.

    6. Drying the Pigeon

    • Pat dry: Gently pat the pigeon with a towel to remove excess water. Avoid rubbing as it could damage the feathers.
    • Warm place: Keep the pigeon in a warm, draft-free area until it is completely dry. You can use a hairdryer on the lowest setting if the pigeon tolerates it, but keep it at a safe distance to avoid overheating.

    7. Post-Cleaning Care

    • Observe behavior: Watch the pigeon for signs of stress or discomfort after the bath.
    • Provide food and water: Ensure the pigeon has access to fresh water and a safe, comfortable place to rest.

    Additional Tips

    • Do not use strong disinfectants or chemicals that can harm the bird’s sensitive skin and feathers.
    • Limit baths to when absolutely necessary, as frequent cleaning can strip the natural oils from the pigeon’s feathers.

    If the pigeon seems injured or unwell, contact a wildlife rescue center or avian veterinarian for guidance.

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    lol, definitely missed some important context.

    I guess it thought OOP meant “clean” as in how do you dress the bird before you cook it. (As in: “clean a fish” means to filet a fish and prep it for cooking.)

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      But first it said they are usually clean. So that can’t be the context. If there was a context. But there is no context because AI is fucking stupid and all these c-suite assholes pushing it like their last bowel movement will be eating crow off of their golden parakeet about two years from now when all this nonsense finally goes away and the new shiny thing is flashing around.

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        30 days ago

        There are signs of three distinct interpretations in the result:

        • On topic, the concept of cleaning a wild bird you are trying to save
        • Preparing a store bought Turkey (removing a label)
        • Preparing a wild bird that is caught

        It’s actually a pretty good illustration of how AI assembles “information shaped text” and how smooth it can look and yet how dumb it can be about it. Unfortunately advocates will just say “I can’t get this specific thing wrong when I ask it or another LLM, so there’s no problem”, even as it gets other stuff wrong. It’s weird as you better be able to second guess the result, meaning you can never be confident in an answer you didn’t already know, but when that’s the case, it’s not that great for factual stuff.

        For “doesn’t matter” content, it may do fine (generated alternatives to stock photography, silly meme pictures, random prattle from background NPCs in a game), but for “stuff that matters”, Generative AI is frequently more of a headache than a help.