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The CEO of the Goodwill has a private jet.
The coat is clearly BLACK. The tag says BLUE.
Forgive me if I didn’t detect the sarcasm. But the color is goodwills discount system. On any given day the red tags might be discounted, or the blue. It is a way to clear out stuff more consistently.
Goodwill is built on under paying it’s labor. They take advantage of laws that allow them to pay disabled people whatever they want. The laws were meant to help provide labor, get disabled people back into a productive life, and provide some extra income so they weren’t completely reliant on Social Security.
That sounds noble right? Well Goodwill has been caught paying people less than a dollar an hour. And as you see here, they aren’t giving discounts to the people who have to shop at a thrift store either.
They’re walking away with a massive upwards redistribution of wealth from the lower classes to the upper classes. Also I expect someone will be along soon to yell at me, (a disabled person), about the dignity of work and how no one else is providing it. Also in this picture, the meat packing industry which has been caught using mentally disabled people for less than minimum pay in dangerous conditions.
Hi, I’m disabled although I’m still working (at the moment, may break further). I agree with you.
The biggest issue to consider for any company hiring a significantly disabled person, whether mentally, physically, or both, is they’ll be less productive and may require much more oversight, meaning they contribute less to the company. This is the justification behind the lower pay. It makes sense if you’re a shit sack capitalist that values production above anything else.
With that being said, Goodwill is absolutely taking advantage of the disabled. They’re ostensibly a non-profit charity that exists to provide employment, leading to training and work experience, to the disabled community. They pay their disabled employees the lowest amount possible, actively working to justify low pay. Imagine if your employer was constantly looking to drop your salary so you had to constantly fight them over it. Now pretend you have a significant TBI or are developmentally disabled (just imagine your mental capacity while drunk, but without the feeling good) and still having to fight that. Welcome working for Goodwill.
Fuck Goodwill right in their “charity” hole.
Badwill
They are a for-profit company built around taking advantage of poor people.
all companies take advantage of poor people, the poors are terrible at making long term decisions because they don’t have enough capital to afford them.
While true, there are levels, just like dante’s circles of hell. Not all companies entire business models are specifically designed to take advantage of people’s good nature and/or poor people’s desperation…
this is actually A Thing according to my dedicated thrifter wife
They realized they can make more money by pricing what professional resellers would charge, and have starting sloughing off more high end stuff to sell online, and adjusting pricing to be inline with the rest of the 2nd hand fashion reselling market.
I wanna say this has been going on for a while, but it really feels like they’ve cranked it up just recently. I was in a goodwill probably just a month or so ago and it felt like everything there was the same price you’d have gotten it new. It’s insane.
Stick to your local thrifters, people, chances are they have better shit anyway.
Yeah, everyone has a phone now, including goodwill employees. They aren’t going to put a Northface coat out for $12.99 when it goes for $129 online used.
Our local thrift stores price according to the real world too, and generally, I bet $35 is still a deal for this coat. Its just not the $3.50 that people want to see.
You mean it’s not the 3.50 that the working mom of 3 needs it to be in order to buy it.
More like its $35 that Goodwill can use to help an actual working mom of 3 when re-sellers pay to get a coat they can sell online for $130.
Retail charities view their store as the source of funds for the charity, not as the charity itself. They also know people are reselling high end items, so they can mark them higher to make more money for the charity.
Then they aren’t a thrift store and should stop deceptively marketing themselves as one. Furthermore their “programs” are shit. If they just paid their employees then they could afford the online courses without the administrative overhead.
That’s how all charity thrift stores work. That’s how they have always worked. The retail sales power the charity. Goodwill, habitat for humanity, salvation army, on and on. I have some local ones that pay for animal shelters.
They all sell donated items to make money for the charity.
And yet Habitat for Humanity manages to build houses while it’s stores are actually thrift stores.
I found dollarama products listed for $5+ at the local goodwill. Let’s not just make the blanket assumption that exploited goodwill workers are professional appraisers and that the customer is the problem.
Well, they deal with literally any object any store has ever sold in the history of time or space, likely for minimum wage. So yeah, I expect they don’t get them all right. Having to accurately price 1930’s glokenspiels and 2017 high fashion would be challenging for anyone, anywhere.
Still, it makes sense that they have some processes in place to get it right some of the time, and maybe even most of the time.
This is a store where people GIVE away their stuff, out of the goodness of their hearts with the premise that it will be sold at a low price so that someone less fortunate can benefit. If goodwill has decided to sell the merchandise it gets for FREE at “fair market value” to the highest bidder in order to maximise profit then what’s the point of goodwill? Might as well use a consignment store and get a cut.
The exchange in “Goodwill” is that you’re donating in goodwill so your things can help others. That’s what goodwill MEANS.
Okay, you misunderstand how retail charity works. These charities sell donated goods to generate revenue to fund their charity effort.
The “charity” isn’t the cheap goods inside the store. It’s using the profit they generate to run or give to that charity. This can be running food banks, animal shelters, jobs programs, etc. The more money they make, the more they can give to their causes.
Their social good works in 3 ways: provide that charity effort, provide inexpensive or less expensive goods to people, and act as free recycling centers for the environment. Most of what these stores receive is literal trash, flat out. They process this to the actual dump at no charge while sorting out any useful items.
You can disagree with this model, but it is the model. If you have real issues with it, then sure, sell the goods and keep the money or donate directly to a charity of your choice.
Goodwill specifically markets itself as a thrift store to help the working class while also helping homeless and disabled people get retail experience to get normal jobs.
Instead we’ve found out they get their product donated, they pay less than minimum wage (sometimes 22 cents an hour), and they sell at market prices. So that was all a lie. That’s why people are mad. Changing what they say they do now isn’t going to work without a massive PR campaign to show people the out of store projects they do. And then we’re all going to ask where the money for that PR campaign came from. They are a shit company, and a shittier charity.
Can you link some of these ads you’re talking about? I don’t really see any ads for them ever.
I don’t think they hide that they sell things that are donated, since they want people to donate. They also dont sell things at market prices, especially not from what I’ve seen personally. I bought a $600 snowboarding jacket there for $85 once. It wasn’t $8.50, but 80% off for a coat in pristine condition is nowhere near “market” prices. I’ve got tons of things from years of thrifting there that were wildly under “market” prices. I still go regularly and think the prices are very solid for thrift, if occasionally bonkers.
It sounds like you have specific issues with Goodwill, which is fine, but the above is how all retail charities work. The store prices are not the charity. The charity comes from the profits from the stores, so all retail charities are incentivized to make a profit. The fact that the prices are much less than market, and that they do some great environmental things as well via recycling is the extra positive bits of retail charity like goodwill or habitat for humanity.
If you don’t care to support the model that’s fine, but that’s why they price things the way they do.
There is absolutely nothing ‘Good’ about their will. Never has been.
There was a big expose in them in the early 90’s about how much the top got paid, that 80% of income went to paying staff, and rampant nepotism.
Fuck Good Will
I understand the frustration but Goodwill sells all that stuff to support it’s job training and skills program. Here’s the mission statement . Most people see it’s value as a place to donate old stuff or to buy used clothes cheaply but the organization sees it’s purpose differently.
They hire disabled people because they can legally pay them less then minimum wage. They aren’t the good guys.
I worked at Goodwill sorting donations 20 years ago. This is nothing new. They price according to what they think they can get for it. And if we got in designer stuff that we thought we could make money off of, there was a Goodwill website we sold it on. This is the way it’s always been.
They’re also upfront about it: Goodwill exists to give (mainly disabled) people jobs, not to sell things as cheap as possible
Don’t make me laugh. They get their product donated, they get their labor at subminimum, and they sell at market price. That’s not a non profit that exists to help the people working there. It’s exploiting them and extracting money from them and the shoppers who are deceived into thinking it’s a thrift store.
Goodwill exists to make rich people richer. The disabled people they “exist to give jobs too” are super exploited.
Then why does anyone donate shit to Goodwill. I thought they purposely sold things cheap so that people that needed it could afford it.
That’s been their marketing for decades. It’s been coming unraveled recently though. There are actual thrift shops that charge enough to keep the doors open and do their other projects. There’s also homeless and near homeless donation places that will take your stuff in and use it to furnish a place given to a homeless person.
Really we should have all been very sus of a “thrift store” with Goodwill’s marketing budget.
Only because they legally pay them less then minimum wage.
Who made the jacket?
That’s what I was thinking too. If it’s expensive brand that might explain the high price.
My wife goes regularly to goodwill and those prices are for premium brands and most of the time they still have tags attached or at least look like they’ve never been worn. In her experience they keep that price for a few weeks and if it isn’t sold they discount them deeply
I hate Goodwill out here. They have the least selection of crap, and charge absurdly high prices like this. I go to another local chain of thrift stores called The Hope Chest. There’s like 4 of them around here and they rock. Usually go there for pants because I can find good quality materials and spend like $5 for 6 pairs.
Free market in action.
If they’re free market then they aren’t a thrift store, charity, or a non profit.
As in “I gave it to you for free. And you overcharged everyone for it.”
But let’s also be fair, as in “I gave it to them for free out of convenience while getting rid of the stuff that I’d feel bad just throwing away”
I wouldn’t say donating to Goodwill is convenient. It’s more convenient to just throw it away. And reduce/reuse/recycle is a good thing. The bad thing here is Goodwill is blocking the three Rs by marking up the price. Which means they will probably just throw it away eventually because no one will buy it for that. Hopefully they will at least send it to a garment recycler later so that it’s laundered and then shredded to either r make new clothing, or stuffing for pillows or boxing bags.
