Russia sustained more than 10,000 casualties in a week, according to statistics from Ukraine’s military, with the fast-approaching winter season unlikely to bring a lull in high numbers of fighters killed and injured in the grinding conflict.

Moscow has suffered a total of 690,720 casualties since February 2022, Ukraine’s General Staff said on Monday. This includes 1,680 fighters being killed or injured in the past 24 hours, according to Kyiv.

This figure also brings Moscow’s total casualties, per Kyiv’s count, to 10,490 in the previous seven days.

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    Total madness. How are Russians so dumb that they just keep throwing their lives away like this?

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      Each of them only does it once, and thinks it’s just a matter of luck when it happens to someone else

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        Casualties are not the same as KIA, and not all WIA are permanently combat ineffective.

        Someone who got shrapnel in the leg or abdomen and requires 6-8 weeks of recovery, before returning to combat, is a single casualty.

        That same soldier can return to combat, catch a bullet in their arm, and be a casualty again.

        That same soldier can return to service three months later, etc.

        If after returning to service a 3rd time, they’re eventually KIA, then they would have been counted as a casualty three times.

        Not saying this is typical, or that this is indicative of the normal WIA casualty. Just pointing out that a single soldier can be counted as a casualty more than once, and it’s not uncommon.

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      How do you know its the truth?

      Casualty counts and battlefield losses are disputed during active conflicts, and experts urge caution when considering tallies offered by either party in a war. Moscow and Kyiv very rarely nod to their own casualty counts.

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        People here get really uppity when you point out that Ukraine’s enemy lossss and casualty reports are likely inflated, because that’s what all militaries do in all conflicts. It doesn’t even always have to do with wartime propaganda, but because it’s hard to accurately tally enemy losses during active conflict.

        Anyways, when you point that out the usual responses to point out the patently ridiculous reports on Ukrainian losses that the Russian MoD puts out, as if somehow that means Ukraine’s are accurate.

        The best I can say is that Ukrainian reports are almost certainly exponentially closer to reality than Russia’s comically absurd and fantastical figures.

        I will finish it up by saying that there are good independent sources who open source intelligence to track verified losses, and air on the conservative side.

        That of course means their loss reports aren’t accurate either, but they provide a good figures to be used as a floor for any estimate ranges.

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          I think that the data Ukraine has on Russian losses is better than in any previous conflict. The drones are constantly flying over the battlefield recording.

          I also think that Ukraine has significant political reasons for attempting to be reasonably accurate. They rely on NATO for money, weapons, and supplies. They need to provide an reasonably accurate representation of what they are doing with the resources to keep their suppliers happy.

          It doesn’t need to be exact, just a reasonable estimate made in good faith.

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    “Lost” seems disingenuous here if we’re talking about casualties. I thought they mean 10,000 died. Ig in the strictest sense of the word they lost then

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      That’s usually how it’s discussed.

      From a certain perspective, it doesn’t matter whether a given soldier dies or is injured. Either way, it means a combatant was removed from the conflict.

      As such, deaths and injuries are grouped together when discussing the “losses” of war.

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