Can you imagine her outrage of anyone said that about any group she is part of? Women. American. Divorced. Military. You name it. “Kill all of them”, “How can you say that, that’s inhumane and you should be locked up in a mental hospital”, but when it’s Palestinians it’s fine I guess.
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The last bit you quoted about Biden is referring to statements he made about Biden asking Netanyahu about the possibility of a ceasefire and that Bibi told Biden there is none.
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Yes, there’s no possibility because he’s asked and was tolled no possibility.
This is the correct answer. There will be no cease fire until, at minimum, the hostages are released. The other problem that the Israelis have is that there’s no evidence that Hamas has any intention of honoring a cease fire as they’ve willingly violated many such agreements in the past.
I don’t have a strong opinion as to what the correct choice is here for Israel, I’m simply stating the facts as they relate to the possibility of a cease fire.
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why tf is a state legislature even wasting time on this?
they should be contacting their elected representatives in congress like anyone else.
Only ones picking up the phones I imagine. You should attend a local school board meeting and listen to all the
“This is state level policy”
“I don’t care do something about it!”
People are raising their concerns with the powers that be and they aren’t listening so they go find someone with some power and yell at them.
And yeah this is not me showing contempt. I get it fully.
Why are states wasting time with resolutions for international issues. Stay in your lane.
Why are you diverting attention from the real issue: a fuckin’ psychopath calling for mass murder.
Cause more than enough people covered that topic in the comments already.
Because it’s all theater. Most of these loonies are extras they just don’t know it. It’s one giant distraction. A fuckin flea circus. Just make sure you’re paying attention so you don’t notice your wallet getting lighter or your rights getting smaller.
I agree, ignore all local and state elections.
I wouldn’t say ignore them. That is how the loons get their soapbox and make rules that make our lives hell. Remember that it is local government that assists the state government with their gerrymandering and enforcement of abusive laws. Vote for competent, populace-minded local governments and the asshats in the state governments will have more trouble exerting will.
Yeah, that would be the sarcasm.
Pardon my autism. Sorry I didn’t catch it.
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These people live in a bizarre, hate-filled universe.
That and their tribe is all they have.
America*
She said the only part out loud.
This is why I’m not all that concerned in the recent polls that Biden is losing support among Progressives, who tend to be sympathetic to the Palestinians. What are they going to do, vote for Trump and his friends, who are even worse? If Trump does win, do they really think they would be listened to?
I doubt a single person in Florida who thinks that Biden and the party he leads is not taking their side on this issue would vote for this person instead.
What are they going to do, vote for Trump and his friends, who are even worse?
What they might do is sit out the election or make a third party protest vote. I am no lover of Biden, but if he’s the only viable choice other than Trump, we need him in the office and I’m worried not enough people will realize that.
It’s the same issue Hillary had. Lots of liberals were so fucking tired of the system. They wanted something new. And Hillary was a direct personification of the system; A career politician who had paid her party dues for decades, and felt like the seat had been promised to her. There were a lot of liberals who casted protest votes.
I’ll admit I did that. I voted for Bernie in the Primary and then didn’t vote in the General. Although I lived in Oklahoma where Trump beat Clinton by 529k votes and hasn’t been blue in the last 50 years…
I’d like to think I would have voted for Clinton if my vote counted for anything. If we got rid of the electoral college then I feel like the voting percentage would go up across the country as Republicans in California and Democrats in Alabama would suddenly have a reason to actually vote. I live in Alabama now and it is a STUGGLE to get any of my friends to take the time to go vote.
Yea I’m sorry I was one of them and therefore helped trump get in. I wanted Bernie, still want Bernie, voted Bernie in protest in ‘16 but did my part voting Biden in ‘20. But until trump is dead and republicans are unable to field someone as rallying to their base, I’m forced to vote democrat to prevent fascism overtaking my nation.
I hope the ones who did have learned their lesson. When the greater of two evils gets in power, greater evil is done.
What they might do is sit out the election or make a third party protest vote.
Which, in our current system, also helps Republicans get elected.
And which also shows that you cant reform the system from within.
I honestly don’t care anymore, everything is already fucked. I might start voting the craziest right wingers going forward, bring on the collapse, the Democratic party is just a different sect of rich fucks that do not give one singular fuck about the people they supposedly represent. This whole place is rotten to it’s core.
We have no culture beyond consumption and money
This is called accelerationism, it has extremely unfortunate consequences for your minority friends.
I’m exhausted from caring and just seeing humanity continue to go downhill and backwards with no signs of slowing.
who said I’m not a minority myself? :)
Then don’t drag your cohort into hell because you’re being a little pissbaby. If you find it this hard to participate, then don’t. I encourage you and everyone like you to please vote and rebuke fascism, but turning around and burning it all to the ground just hurts people and fixes nothing.
Yea that will only cause the death of millions, great idea there mate
Username checks out.
What could go wrong with electing the people who want the opposite things you do?
Electoral nihilism isn’t cool or edgy, it’s stupid. Things could always get worse, and definitely will if a collapse happens.
You all survived trump. What you didnt do was ensure he wouldnt be able to run again. Even those that hate him are defending his right to run because it’s “unprecedented”
Their rhetoric is certainly more openly genocidal, but Biden has done little to nothing to stop this either. He seems to fully support funding genocide.
He uses language that is better, but his actions show no restraint in helping Israel 100%.
In a rare Oval Office speech, the president said, “We reject all forms of hate,” against Muslims, Jews and everyone, as he set the stage for a planned request to Congress for $14 billion in emergency assistance for Israel
And just 2 days ago:
Q What are the chances of a Gaza ceasefire?
THE PRESIDENT: None. No possibility.
This is what leftists are talking about when we say they’re not that different. One party has better language sometimes but in reality little ever changes. Both ultimately serve the interests of the rich and the interests of the rich lie in imperialism and exploitation. The existence of Israel in that region benefits them.
But thats really the only line he could take. People talk about the benefits of incumbency when running for office, but incumbency also has a drawback that you need to find solutions to problems, in real-time, with whatever situation is currently going on. His opponents have the luxury of not having to be the one to deal with this problem, right now.
And the fact of the matter is, no matter how heavy handed Israel is being right now, Hamas is showing no signs of letting up. And, no matter what you think about Israel’s treatment of Gaza all this time, no one can make an argument that Hamas didn’t strike first in this most recent action. If Biden let up on Hamas the way his detractors want, all it does is embolden those who want to use violence to further their extreme politics. (Including the home-grown ones in the US).
no matter what you think about Israel’s treatment of Gaza all this time, no one can make an argument that Hamas didn’t strike first in this most recent action.
What a pointless, ahistorical line of thought.
Yeah sure if you just ignore everything else and start from that day, they kind of look like the aggressor.
But even then that’s not true. “Israel was just peacefully minding its own business, illegally occupying the land they stole when the people they stole it from attacked outta nowhere”. Occupation is aggression.
They could choose not to vote at all, which is almost as bad. Or vote for a third party candidate, which is the same thing.
Many people think they’re taking a moral stand by sitting out an election because they don’t like their party’s contender.
Used to listen to a local conservative radio host. Great guy, wouldn’t let anyone talk shit if it wasn’t true, never pushed any hate, nothing like today’s breed.
Lady calls in and says she’s refuses to vote McCain for whatever reason. OTOH, she disliked Obama even more. The host was gob smacked.
“You do realize that not voting McCain is next door to voting Obama and you’re helping him win? Right? If you don’t like Obama, wouldn’t it be better to hold your nose and vote McCain?”
“I still won’t do it. I have morals.”
Supporting Israel in this holocaust is going to cost Biden votes.
This “great guy” was encouraging people to vote for the Republican candidate after eight years of George W. Bush?
Hope people are gathering outside her office to protest. What a piece of shit.
Wait… subject == repub == POS? Ok, nm, that checks out.
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Outrageous
She seems like an idiot, but the reality is anyone with this opinion out of Israel right now kind of has the right to feel that way. Genocide never fixes problems and always creates more problems later
Not too far of a departure from Biden’s statements about no upper limit of dead civilians or children and “None. No possiblity.” about a ceasefire.
The real crime for the Republican: aligning with Biden in rhetoric.
Lemmings are rightly furious about these comments, but I don’t recall you all being upset about Tlaib’s tone-deaf implication that Israel should be wiped from the map.
I’m not pretending Tlaib’s comments are as bad as these, because they’re not, but I am absolutely for censuring Tlaib over them. They were totally out of line, no matter what she meant.
“Lemmy did not levy these exact condemnations over a less-offensive comment and therefore…”
What? So what? What is your point? You posted this just to side track condemnation of actual genocidal language in order to drop some open-ended whataboutism?
Source on Tlab’s comments?
Those comments are fine. The only ones pissed off about them are insincere fear mongers and genocidal apologists.
Exactly. Tlaib literally says its meaning is of peaceful coexistence. There is absolutely no comparison with the woman above saying all Palestinians should be dead.
You think using the exact language Hamas uses when they call for Israel’s obliteration is fine? There’s definitely something wrong with you.
You sir\madam are not a nice person.
If I’m “not nice,” you’re far worse.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid. But you abuse that privilege.
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