Questions remain about what spurred the board’s decision to oust Altman, but growing tensions became impossible to ignore as Altman rushed to make OpenAI the next big technology company.

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      Yup, been saying this wave of “AI” is a fad, the cracks are starting to show…

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        How do you think that something people are already using to type out dull, routine emails is some kind of fad? It saves time, if you don’t have to spend an extra minute typing out a routine confirmation email, why would you?

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          Being a fad is relative. Something that’s hugely popular and being brought up in every industry as a world changing technology for a while before normalizing as something useful in a few areas but not a good fit in many others qualifies as a fad in my book. Most tech fads never go totally away because they’re not useless, they were just overblown.

          Generative ML models certainly are useful and extend what we think of ML traditionally being capable of doing. But the current worldwide AI madness is not due to the merits of Gen ML, it’s because it’s marketed as AI (which to 90 percent of the population means what AGI means to nerds) and makes people think “we’re about to be in terminator any second now” when in reality it means “hey my autocomplete isn’t totally crap anymore”

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            I love how your reply everyone agrees with that this is another tech fad…just like the .com boom…yet my reply has everyone disagreeing with calling it a fad lol.

            You nailed it though. I don’t know how many people I’ve talked to who think this is legit terminator level AI…or nearly there.

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          generating emails that is the worst possible use case of ai. just send me whatever you feed the ai to generate the world salad. i don’t need the word salad, there is nothing wrong with being brief and to the point.

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          Because sending and receiving dull emails isnt real work. AI has only replaced bullshit, so far. It just isnt worth the billions these companies claim it is until they find a product and sell it.

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          Hello,
          Thanks for your message. I’ll check the sales figures out as soon.as.I can.

          Best regards
          Norgur

          I couldn’t have opened any AI thingy in the time I typed that.

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            Okay, now imagine you have to type out a formal email but are typically shit at that kind of thing.

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                But imagine you were shit at writing formal emails. Sure, right now you can knock something like that out sooner but that’s because you know how to do it.

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        Because it’s not AI and it never was. Calling a t9 artificial intelligence was a great marketing but zero substance

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        The technology that can automate problem solving to some degree and other incredibly complicated tasks that only humans previously could do is toooooooooooooooootally a fad.

        Start putting some fucking pressure on your politicians to implement UBI, put legal restrictions on AI, etc. Don’t fucking underestimate this tech. It’s only a matter of time before we’ve got more people than jobs.

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          You way overestimate this tech. I work in this field. We do not have fast enough anything (storage/ram/CPU) to do what you think it can. We need ubi sure, but this isn’t the leap everyone thinks it is. It’s still dumb tech and just follows what humans feed it. Do remember that less than 40 years ago everyone was still using paper for everything, now one person can do what 20 did in the past with a computer.

          Until you see robots walking around, this tech isn’t the apocalyptic expectations you think it has.

          When quantum computing actually takes off then you can start worrying

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            Guess what? I work in this field too.

            now one person can do what 20 did in the past with a computer

            How can you say this but completely miss the fucking point?

            We do not have fast enough anything (storage/ram/CPU) to do what you think it can When quantum computing actually takes off then you can start worrying

            Oh, that’s how you can say it. You clearly don’t work in this field if that’s what you think the bottleneck is right now.

            I’ve personally used AI to generate more than 200K lines of production code this year alone. One senior engineer today can do the work of dozens with this. We are going to go from labor shortages to labor surpluses.

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      I haven’t watched a lot of two-minute papers, but this video is very misleading. Simulated environments have been used for years to speed up DeepRL. The only ChatGPT/LLM portion was about defining a scoring mechanism and there video gives no indication of if it did a better job or not, not to mention the problem the LLM was solving is one that’s been studied for decades, which reduces the “it generalizes better”.

      I’m not saying LLMs have a lot of potential, but that video isn’t really supportive of that stance.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The power struggle revolved around Altman’s push toward commercializing the company’s rapidly advancing technology versus Sutskever’s concerns about OpenAI’s commitments to safety, according to people familiar with the matter.

    Senior OpenAI executives said they were “completely surprised” and had been speaking with the board to try to understand the decision, according to a memo sent to employees on Saturday by chief operating officer Brad Lightcap that was obtained by The Washington Post.

    During its first-ever developer conference, Altman announced an app-store-like “GPT store” and a plan to share revenue with users who created the best chatbots using OpenAI’s technology, a business model similar to how YouTube gives a cut of ad and subscription money to video creators.

    Quora CEO Adam D’Angelo, one of OpenAI’s independent board members, told Forbes in January that there was “no outcome where this organization is one of the big five technology companies.”

    Two of the board members who voted Altman out worked for think tanks backed by Open Philanthropy, a tech billionaire-backed foundation that supports projects preventing AI from causing catastrophic risk to humanity: Helen Toner, the director of strategy and foundational research grants for Center for Security and Emerging Technology at Georgetown, and Tasha McCauley, whose LinkedIn profile says she began work as an adjunct senior management scientist at Rand Corporation earlier this year.

    Within five to 10 years, there could be “data centers that are much smarter than people,” Sutskever said on a recent episode of the AI podcast “No Priors.” Not just in terms of memory or knowledge, but with a deeper insight and ability to learn faster than humans.


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    A growing rift between people who rape four year old girls and those who don’t?

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            Would you be sane living with that from the age of four?

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              I question the legitimacy or accuracy of a lot of that given all the things she’s wrote. She’s clearly not mentally stable. I feel at the very least, there’s a lot of context missing. She claims even her therapist is against her. These are still accusations, nothing more.

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            If half of the claims were even remotely true, that’s gonna be one hell of a toll on one’s mental health. I get that false claims can be a thing, but some people really are that sick. That includes talented people as well.

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              She only claims her brother slept in the same bed as her at 13. She does not have other claims just insinuations. So if it’s all true and she was abused she doesn’t seem to remember what exactly happened.

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                  I believe so. My point is that by your comment half of her claims would be no claims since she only made 1 concrete claim.