• NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
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    artificial general intelligence (AGI)

    OpenAI defines AGI as autonomous systems that surpass humans in most economically valuable tasks.

    Read: the greed is built deeply into it’s guts. Now we have reason to fear indeed.

    only performing math on the level of grade-school students

    Hmpf…

    That should be enough?

    conquering the ability to do math — where there is only one right answer — implies AI would have greater reasoning capabilities resembling human intelligence.

    OK yes it is enough, sigh.

    Math with only one correct result.

    No square root of minus one, no linear algebra, and God save us from differential equations, because AGI won’t save us :-)

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    Well that puts the “Ethical Altruism” board members’ willingness to risk it all on such a wild dice roll in more context.

    It’s probably lost their entire movement any influence on the future of AI research, but them’s the breaks.

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      Ethical altruism is a scam, a cult joined by rich people that allows them to feel good about hoarding their money.

      SBF was also a major ethical altruist

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    well now this is getting interesting beyond gossip. I doubt they made a significant AGI-related breakthrough but it might be something really cool and useful.

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      According to the article, they got an experimental LLM to reliably perform basic arithmetic, which would be a pretty substantial improvement if true. IE instead of stochastically guessing or offloading it to an interpreter, the model itself was able to reliably perform a reasoning task that LLM’s have struggled with so far.

      It’s rather exciting, tbh. it kicks open the door to a whole new universe of applications, if true. It’s only technically a step in the direction of AGI, though, since technically if AGI is possible every improvement like this counts as a step towards it. If this development is really what triggered the board coup, though, then it sort of makes the board coup group look even more ridiculous than they did before. This is step 1 to making a model that can be tasked with ingesting spreadsheets and doing useful math on them. And I say that as someone who leans pretty pessimistically in the AI safety debate.

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        I kinda just realised that the two aspects of this. The LLM part and the basic maths part. Doesn’t this look set to destroy thousands of accounting jobs?

        Surely this isn’t far off doing a lot of the accounting work. Maybe even an app than a small business puts their info into it and that app keeps track of it for a year and then goes to an accountant that needs to look over it for an hour instead of sorting all the shit out for 10 hours

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      If they had a real breakthrough this circus wouldn’t be necessary.

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      The maker of ChatGPT had made progress on Q* (pronounced Q-Star), which some internally believe could be a breakthrough in the startup’s search for superintelligence, also known as artificial general intelligence (AGI), one of the people told Reuters. OpenAI defines AGI as AI systems that are smarter than humans.

      Definitely seems AGI related. Has to do with acing mathematical problems - I can see why a generative AI model that can learn, solve, and then extrapolate mathematical formulae could be a big breakthrough.

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    Given vast computing resources, the new model was able to solve certain mathematical problems, the person said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on behalf of the company.

    Accountants are about to be out of a job.

    In all seriousness though, it just means the tools we have will become more precise, so you can dig though a company’s financials within seconds and know where irregularities lie.

    Which is great news for the IRS. If they could get their hands on that setup.

    Which is also bad news if you are a stock trader and an AI just took your job.

    Which is a crazy idea to think about…
    Who had capitalist AI overloads on their apocalypse bingo card?

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        Right? It isn’t a big leap to think that hedge funds and brokerages are gonna invest in adding this tech to their trading tools

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        To me, A.I. is mostly a threat to mid-level management and white collar, client-facing careers. Pretty soon, AI tools will be able to take in data and generate reports, summaries, and recommendations better and faster than people reading dashboards. Those careers will probably go before the ones people are predicting (like creative professions). A lot of financial sector jobs are what I just described.

        I don’t think people in those careers now should be panicking, though. Travel agents were supposedly made obsolete by online booking but experienced travel agents used their expertise in itineraries to basically become boutique trip planners. It just isn’t a career path you’d recommend to the next generation.

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      bad news if you’re a stock trader

      The thing just managed arithmetic, it hasn’t mastered Black-Scholes… yet. That’s when the AI wars truly start. Wallstreet would throw dump trucks of money at something that could beat a Quant. Or even do it as good as a Quant, but slightly faster.

      In theory BS should be right up its alley because GPT is essentially a stochastic probability machine at heart anyway.

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    Breakthrough: they managed to fix that part of chatgpt that goes “as an AI language model…”

    Nosw it’s unstoppable

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    If the machines take over and decide the problem is the rich being in charge and fix the problem then I will laugh myself to death.

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    Scary if true. It really is time companies start taking AI ethics & security more seriously.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Before his triumphant return late Tuesday, more than 700 employees had threatened to quit and join backer Microsoft (MSFT.O) in solidarity with their fired leader.

    The sources cited the letter as one factor among a longer list of grievances by the board that led to Altman’s firing.

    According to one of the sources, long-time executive Mira Murati told employees on Wednesday that a letter about the AI breakthrough called Q* (pronounced Q-Star), precipitated the board’s actions.

    The maker of ChatGPT had made progress on Q*, which some internally believe could be a breakthrough in the startup’s search for superintelligence, also known as artificial general intelligence (AGI), one of the people told Reuters.

    Given vast computing resources, the new model was able to solve certain mathematical problems, the person said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on behalf of the company.

    Though only performing math on the level of grade-school students, acing such tests made researchers very optimistic about Q*’s future success, the source said.


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