YouTube starts making everyone’s Skip button for ads smaller
    • foggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      691·
      10 months ago

      The real problem is that barriers to entry for competition are insurmountable.

      If I wanna compete, I gotta host those files somewhere. With Google, Amazon, or Microsoft. That’s basically my whole list of options.

      I mean, I can opt to do it myself, but… That’s beyond David v Goliath. No way I could manage the amount of spam, CSA, DMCA, terrorism/misinformation and other shit that would seek to take the competition out.

      • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        91·
        10 months ago

        The other reason why it’s impossible is simply that nobody would upload their genuine content to your site because it doesn’t get as much “engagement” as on YouTube. Social inertia is why YouTube can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want and people will stay.

        Twitch is the same thing for livestreams. Not even Facebook using fuck-you money to literally buy exclusivity contracts with streamers could change that. People just didn’t want to watch there (although I can understand their reluctance).

  • makyo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    64·
    10 months ago

    They’re completely lost at this point I think. The ‘skip ad’ button is brilliant from a marketing perspective, if you ask me. One can get pretty used to tuning out ads but having that skip button keeps you actively interacting. So even if you didn’t see the whole ad, if the advertiser is smart you heard their name before you skipped. Plus the user gets to feel like the ad isn’t shoved down their throat, they have control.

    If I were running things I’d quit this dumb battle with the users they’ve declared and make ads extremely easy to skip - I feel like you’d have a lot fewer refugess from the site and a lot more people less motivated to install an ad blocker in the first place.

    • Peppycito@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      17·
      10 months ago

      I have the god damn chromecast with the remote thing and it’s totally bullshit, and handy! But mostly bullshit. I’m a mute nazi and mute every ad immediately to the point my wife makes fun of me. Although she does admit that it makes it more peaceful to watch. I’m wait to see how they enshittify it. I give it 3 months and then they pause ads if it’s muted.

      • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        7·
        10 months ago

        Get tourself smart tube. It’s a million times better than the youtube tv app. I got a chromecast tv specifically so I could side load smart tube cause i was sick of the youtube app on my tv

        • Peppycito@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          That’s seems more complex than I’m willing to attempt. I’ll keep it in mind, thanks for the suggestion!

          • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            3·
            10 months ago

            I don’t remember it being that tricky, you just download the release from github and either put it on a usb to put into your Chromecast or send it from your phone via a myriad of apps and you just install it on your Chromecast like you would with your phone. You might have to enable developer mode but that’s just as easy on a phone to by just pressing ok on the version number in the settings a few times

            • Peppycito@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              3·
              10 months ago

              I just went through the steps and it seems like the menu no longer jives with the instructions. I’ll keep poking away at it. I did unlock developer mode so, progress.

              • Pwnmode@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                10 months ago

                It’s worth it. You only have to.install it once and then you can update it from inside itself. I have YouTube premium so ads don’t pop anyway but sponsorblock awesome and the actual interface is better and doesn’t completely change randomly for the worse like YouTube app does Everytime they get an amazing idea for how to make the UX worse.

              • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                3·
                10 months ago

                If you get it to work, I’d also look into getting the button remapper app so you can make the YouTube button on your remote open up smart tube instead.

                I also use it to map the double tap of Netflix to Disney+ and a hold to go to Amazon. It’s pretty handy.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        10 months ago

        I’m sticking with the Chromecast 2. No remote, but also no bullshit. Just cast from your phone or computer and send whatever you want from there to your TV.

        • Peppycito@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          I kept mine and may go back to it. The remote one is only good because it let’s my family watch from my account without buying the family plan. We also have it linked to a couple leach accounts.

    • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      61·
      10 months ago

      No one is leaving YouTube because there is no alternative. You can go to a site like Vimeo, but no one uploads there. You can go to Nebula, but very few people want to pay for yet another subscription.

        • mriormro@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          You could also pay the content creators that you enjoy watching directly. That way you can still have an ad free experience, mostly, while also supporting people making the things you like.

          • Peppycito@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            2·
            10 months ago

            I do support a couple. Patreon doesn’t let me cast, I have to click through to YT. Maybe if I got the patreon app? But fuck that too.

    • MonkderZweite@feddit.chEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Allowing all scripts it works for me, blocking only third-party scripts it shows a popup ad, blocking scripts of the domain too and inline scripts it works and uses less cpu.

  • cozy_agent@lemmy.worldEnglish
    421·
    10 months ago

    If that’s annoying have the people writing this article looked at their own website, ads on ads (and ads placeholders with adblock) with cookie and email subscription popups and SEO bullshit.

  • avater@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    10 months ago

    easy fix: don’t use the app on your phone.

    instead use youtube via your browser with adblock and create a shortcut on your homescreen. you can use youtube just like in the app, you won’t have any ads and you also can play videos with your screen turned off

    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      21·
      10 months ago

      Does that have the address bar taking up space on the top of the screen? That seems like the downside. I prefer revanced, but I can understand that some people don’t want to install anything.

  • WheatleyInc@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    10 months ago

    If you want people to disable content blockers on your website, it’s best not to treat the people who don’t have one on like shit YouTube.

  • burliman@lemm.eeEnglish
    181·
    10 months ago

    I wonder if they know the dollar figure in sales that ads, for all their expense, have gained out of me. I’d say it’s near zero. You may say I am subconsciously influenced and even if I don’t click the ad, I may buy the product at some other date due to recognition. Maybe. But that individual ad impression that someone paid for that I did not click (or blocked) does not know that. And it’s quite likely they don’t care, because ever missed click is still getting the word out so to speak.

    But what they should care about is the absolute dislike I have towards aggressive advertising. And I am not alone. When I face an unskippable or full page or pop up ad, I don’t subconsciously want that product then or later. I consciously hate the product just a little more and more with each impression.

    And now that it’s an arms race, the lines are being drawn, the hatred being cultivated, and the whole effort has lost its entire point: To make me friendly toward the product and to buy it. And I feel like sites like YouTube essentially don’t give a shit. They have the advertisers convinced through some great effort that ads are effective and worth it. All while doing everything that they can to keep us corralled and our eyes pried open to view them.

  • fluxxom@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    10 months ago

    knocking on wood so far with firefox and ublock/noscript and disabled hardware acceleration, i will get audio but no video when these ads autoplay-- instead of pressing the skip button, i just hit f5 and poof, gone. still more work than i prefer but i hate advertising as much as anything

    • Moneo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      10 months ago

      I tried using sunshine/moonlight to stream hockey from my PC to my tv and the stream was black (until I disabled hardware acceleration). Legit blew my fucking mind. I was 30% impressed and 70% angry. Once again paying customers are the ones with the shitty UX.

      I’m sure the average person doesn’t give a fuck but I am slowly but surely being driven away from any and all paid content. I can’t watch 40 dudes skate around in circles without being fucking bombarded with gambling ads from every fucking possible avenue. Because millions isn’t enough they need more millions.

      I’m getting so fucking jaded.

        • Johanno@feddit.deEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          Google is respecting already existing laws in the EU that prevent them from collecting information about your browser without your consent

          • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            10 months ago

            Oh yeah, the EU has shown it actually has teeth hitting even the bigger companies where it hurts: fines that aren’t just “cost of business” but actually impact their revenue.

  • Supercritical@lemmy.worldEnglish
    182·
    10 months ago

    I would pay for YouTube Premium, like I had been when I was a student ($7.99/month), but I’m not a student anymore and they want $19 a month. Fuck no.