I’ve got an antique lamp that needs a new switch knob, but then scope-creep happened and now I want to “smartify” it. I started off thinking that, since it has a metal body, I’d install a capacitive touch switch, but now it’s escalated to wanting to put an ESP8266 or ESP32 in it to handle the capacitive sensing, Home Assistant connectivity/control, and maybe even switching to some kind of low-voltage RGBW LED instead of a 120VAC Edison-base bulb (especially since I suspect I’d need some kind of antenna sticking out the top, since the metal lamp body would presumably otherwise block the ESP32’s signal).

The lamp, BTW:

(Apparently it’s a Genie lamp by Laurel Lamp Company, in case anybody cares. Also, the lamp shown is the same model, but it’s not my picture.)

I’m aware that the “easy” way would probably be to just screw a smart light bulb into the socket and wiring I already have, but (a) I’m picky about both avoiding “clouds” and using FOSS firmware, and I don’t feel like sorting through the junk on Amazon to figure out which ones can be flashed with ESPHome, and more practically (b) that wouldn’t let me turn it on and off just by touching the lamp body, which is what sent me down this rabbit-hole in the first place.

Anyway, I know this sort of thing can be done, but I’m not completely sure how. I know I could figure it out myself eventually, but I figured it couldn’t hurt to ask for advice in case somebody happens to be able to rattle off part numbers for the whole BOM off the top of their head, or knows exactly the right ESPHome howto to point me towards, or something like that. Any advice is welcome!

(In case it’s relevant: my level of experience is that I programmed an Arduino to run neopixels (WS2812 RGB addressable LEDs) once, I’ve flashed ESPHome on some Sonoff S31 smart switches, and I’m a software engineer by trade but have never worked on anything IoT related professionally.)

  • jefff@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Is there a reason you wouldn’t want to just get a zigbee/zwave/wifi smart outlet switch?

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      That’s what I’m doing now (with one of my Sonoff S31s flashed with ESPHome), since I can’t use the mechanical switch. It’s not ideal because I would like to be able to turn the lamp on and off at the lamp (but in a “smart” way rather than mechanical) and the smart outlet switch is down behind a dresser where I can’t easily reach it.

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        The only real way I’ve found of doing stuff like this is another smart button or switch nearby. I use my buttons for whole groups of lights and toggles based on current state and whether you short/long/double click the button.

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        Yeah, I do something similar to Andrew; bought a few IKEA tradfri buttons and remotes, and set them up to toggle lights or media in various rooms.

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    Do you care about dimming or running an extra cord into the lamp? Someone has done something similar here with just an esp32 and smart switch. If you want just a single cord, you’ll need esp32, AC to DC 5v board, and some dry contact ac relay module. The code would be similar but the esp32 would directly control the relay instead of using a switch.

    Edit: thinking about it more, you may also just be able to use a shelly 1 relay flashed with esphome has gpio pins and can run off ac power but it uses an esp8266 so not sure how that would work with capacitive touch.

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    For future reference I recommend the brand “athom” for smart light bulbs, they come flashed with tasmota, wled or esphome and you can also flash whatever you want on them

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    Try a Lutron Caseta dimmer with a Pico remote. They work together as-is without a gateway, and the Gateway Pro will join it to something like Home Assistant in the future. Or you can simply use the Caseta app.

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      Isn’t Lutron Casita about as far from a non-proprietary, FOSS system as I could get? I’m trying to minimize vendor lock-in here, not maximize it.

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    I think the easiest way is using zwave plug + zwave button to control it. If you have zigbee hub then you can use zigbee light bulb + zigbee button for greater control of the light. Quick search on Amazon doesn’t show any zwave light bulb tho

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    Is the base hollow? If yes, you can put a ZigBee module

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      Yes, the base is hollow.

      Is there a reason I should use Zigbee instead of wifi? I don’t currently have a Zigbee Coordinator and it isn’t immediately apparent that there are any Arduino-type microcontroller boards that come with it built in (as opposed to needing a daughter board), so it seems like it’d be more trouble and expense.

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        One of the bigger reasons is ZigBee is capable of mesh network forming, which is useful if you want more devices to be smart. It’s also low power. And the devices are in their private network isolated from the internet, which is also a desirable quality. In summary, ZigBee is built for smart devices, whereas wifi not so much.

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          But:

          1. It plugs in to the wall anyway (it has to, to power the light).

          2. I don’t have any immediate plans to get anything that wouldn’t be like that (I hate the idea of relying on batteries).

          3. I already have wifi, but not zigbee.

          4. I trust devices flashed with third-party firmware not to be calling out to the Internet nefariously (and also know how to subnet & firewall them off).

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            I started off WiFi and ended up on zigbee for the most part. The major downside of wifi is how many devices are cloud/proprietary but it sounds like you’re using esphome so that’s not an issue. I definitely like my zigbee devices as they also tend to be slightly cheaper, but starting with WiFi is an easy progression definitely.

            Getting a USB zigbee device is about all you need to get up and running and adding to your mesh, which I definitely recommend eventually.

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            Yes, for one device, I’d do wifi too. ZigBee does add complexity, but it also adds many possibilities. Esphome is a good solution, I use it also. In fact it seemlessly integrates with HA, so it doesn’t matter

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        Many reason to prefer ZigBee, can handle more devices than WiFi, better security as it is separated from WiFi devices, mesh system, response quicker than WiFi, low energy, built for smart home (unlike wifi), and a few other reasons I don’t have in mind at the moment.