If proper CPR involves compressing the chest so much such that the ribcage might break - doesnt that breakage risks a bone puncturing the heart?

  • MeanEYE@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    And to make things clear for people who don’t know it’s 30 compressions, 2 blows of air. For very young children it’s faster though, 15:1.

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      11 months ago

      Depends on the material, I have to teach 30:2 so that people don’t freeze. There’s a special course for people who are responsible for children, they learn a different algorithm, but I haven’t taught that course, so I’d have to read up on it. I believe that it’s still 30:2, but with 5 blows initially.

      So I guess, just do 30:2 and don’t worry about the age part.

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        11 months ago

        When I was taking my drivers exam we were taught this in first aid. Am quite surprised other countries don’t have this. We have a somewhat short lecture of 2h and we have to pass written and practical exam in first aid. It’s not huge amount of knowledge but it’s better than nothing. We are taught to recognize burns, lacerations, different type of bleeding, CPR and few other things.

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          11 months ago

          Depends on who you are listening to. I just checked with the mandated lesson plan (“Basal førstehjælp til børn”, or “Basic first aid for children”, published by the Danish First Aid Council (DFAC), December 2021). I have to adhere to this plan when teaching that course. Among other things, the main differences are:

          • 5 blows (page 6) then 30:2 at 100-120 BPM (page 7).
          • If you’re alone, then you do 1 min of CPR before calling emergency services (page 7).

          It’s the current lesson plan, and the council tends to follow the European Resuscitation Council’s guidelines… Most of the time. While I haven’t read up on the ERC’s guidelines for some time now, I also know that the DFAC may take other aspects into consideration when creating their lesson plans.

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              11 months ago

              Exactly, as a CNA you have different guidelines, and resources. I used to work as a temp CNA (a job med students can train for in my country), and naturally we were expected to not just do the layman’s CPR.

              But the courses I teach are designed for non-medical persons, and they, more than anything, need to not freeze up in the moment. So they are taught to do it one way, and one way only. Is it optimal in every case? Of course not, but in most cases there’s a net positive effect.