I’m talking about the fight/fuck/dominate hormones. Testosterone, estrogen. The reason why putting a pretty girl in an advertisement works so well. And it might explain a lot of aggression too.

Take them out of the equation and that’s 99% of politics, advertising and popular music gone.

So what would that look like for society?

Would it be Star Trek? Would it be a dystopia?

What about the individual??

Flat effect no ambition misery? Or creative powerhouse and visionary?

Give me your speculations.

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    Bzzzt. We’d find a way to breed without hormones pushing us around. Look at science, engineering, flower gardening. Plenty of ambition there without chemical influence.

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      You… You know that hormones naturally occur in the body right? You know that without hormones, no one would grow ever? Hormones regulate eating, sleep, and more. You know this, right?

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        I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume OP is only referring to sex hormones, though this could have been made clearer in the question…

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        You know that hormones naturally occur in the body…

        These are the hormones to which I referred in the op. I thought that was clear.

        Ok, maybe “taking” wasn’t the right term but I couldn’t think of better.

        I specifically refer to the big famous mind-altering ones. Testosterone. Estrogen.

        The fight-fuck hormones.

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          The fight-fuck hormones.

          You seem to be under the impression that “fight and fuck” are the only things caused by sexual hormones.

          There have been studies how low testosterone/estrogen levels affect overall health:

          Symptoms include hot flashes, hair loss, decreased muscle mass, increased body fat, fatigue, decreasing bone mass (osteoporosis), declining cognitive functions. increased risk of anemia, low blood pressure. (Testosterone, Estrogen)

          This applies to both hormones by the way. Every human body, no matter their assigned gender, produces both Testosterone and Estrogen, albeit at different levels. If you would somehow delete both T and E from your body completely, you’d end up as a depressed, overweight, brittle-boned, constantly tired person with memory issues and a messed-up sleep schedule.

          Does that answer your question about how it would affect society?

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            OP is a troll who spouts a lot of pseudoscience and tries to sound like a caricature of an intellectual while doing so. It’s not clear whether they are doing it for the lulz or they are, in fact, dumb as a rock.

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              Aye … and they’re desperately trying to twist the original question into something that will result in the exact answers they want to hear, and that never leads to an honest, informed discussion. Logic and reason won’t work here. “Don’t feed the troll” - I’m off doing other stuff.

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            I said remove the mental influences of T and E. Not remove T and E completely.

            Because powerful uncontrolled mental influences are something that we don’t like.

            I swear. It’s like you people actually seek the most combative, problematic interpretation. Is that what you literally do?

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            Then assume that we could remove the mind-altering effects without touching the rest. Speculate.

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        Skinny kids who couldn’t make it on the football field trying to eke out supremacy in a different arena? Ok, that’s a fair argument.

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          What? Please research the endocrine system and what it regulates before making another comment

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            I’m talking about the famous ones and their famous effects. Testosterone. Estrogen. Horniness. Aggression. Obsession with titties.

            Now that my point is clearer, speculate.