• Telorand@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    11 months ago

    Going off of how prayer “worked” in hospitals (i.e. it generally caused worse health outcomes), I say they should pray as hard as they can!

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        11 months ago

        Yup:

        https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-mar-31-sci-prayer31-story.html

        "In an unexpected twist, patients who knew prayers were being said for them had more complications after surgery than those who did not know, researchers reported Thursday.

        The complications were minor, and doctors surmised that they could have been caused by the increased stress on patients worried that their conditions were so bad they needed prayers."

        • Telorand@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          11 months ago

          I’ve also heard the hypothesis that people felt that they should be getting better due to the prayer, but were perhaps not/as quickly, and so felt stressed, causing worse outcomes. Like a kind of religion-centered performance anxiety.

          • lennybird@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            11 months ago

            My random theory: people who have prayers said for them tend to be of more conservative families and generally less educated when it comes to things like nutritional science. Thus these people going in just tend to be starting at a worse baseline.

            • Telorand@reddthat.com
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              edit-2
              11 months ago

              There’s probably some truth to that. I had a fundie friend who believed heavily in the “God knows the number of your days” thing and knew what doctors recommended, but still ate three-pound triple burgers with cheese and tons of fried food. “God knows the number of my days. He’ll take care of me, because I trust him,” he would say. He had a heart attack a few years ago and now lives with permanent heart disease.

              Religious fundamentalism makes people do and believe really stupid things.

              • lennybird@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                11 months ago

                Man I grew up in it and I still don’t understand how people can go through adulthood with the cognitive dissonance that is recognizing Santa isn’t real and to think otherwise is absursa, but their God of thousands to exist does.

                That we can’t widely accept a foundation of logic that builds our belief set means we have a lot to learn as a species.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      I concur. We should help them by posting stuff about 24 hours of prayer things. You know. To get every one to do their part.