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    Dude made a simple joke in the same vein as the other joke and was downvoted because it didn’t “toe the line” so yes it’s exactly what I wanted to link.

    If you can’t shitpost, there’s another huge chunk of people gone.

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      Bro a “your black certification ran out” joke is miles different than a “white to black trans” “joke”. Aside from being inappropriate, it’s also just unfunny, and so wildly out of left field, it screams “I’m doing a bigotry reference to be edgy/for attention”. It deserves downvotes for those reasons alone.

      I don’t disagree with your point that Lemmy in it’s current state isn’t the most casual/normie friendly place. But if you think trans “jokes” are what will make Lemmy more approachable, you and I have very different casual audiences in mind.

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        It’s not out of left field. Read the user names.

        The dude who says “I’m not sure which one I am” has the username “Certified Black Guy” which is why the joke was made. They’re all replying to this

        19-45 white male tech enthusiast and 19-45 white trans female tech enthusiast.

        It’s a play on how the expectation was that the trans reference was between gender. Twist-on-expectation is a core conceit of many jokes.

        You don’t have to think it’s a funny joke. It’s a hip shot, a shitpost.

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          I read the thread, the “joke” is bad.

          You don’t have to think it’s a funny joke. It’s a hip shot, a shitpost.

          Isn’t the whole point of a shitpost to garner downvotes? Mission accomplished I guess. Point still stands, it’s deserving of downvotes.

          Again, I don’t disagree that Lemmy is not very casual friendly at the moment. But let me reiterate, “more trans jokes/shitposts/whatever you want to call it” isn’t going to attract the types of “casuals” that I (or most people on Lemmy, I’d assume) want to interact with.

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        I’m defending that person’s joke.

        Read the screen names involved. It’s a decent hip-fire joke, but people took it the wrong way and downvote-spammed him

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          Who cares about downvotes though, honestly? I was expecting some piss-poor Marxist take, because that’s what you mentioned in your comment, but didn’t find one. I know they exist though, I’ve browsed Lemmygrad before.

          I see what you meant to with your posting of that link, though… Maybe you need to be a bit less sensitive? You’re going to have a hard time on here with a sensitivity threshold so low. 12-ish downvotes never killed anyone. Nobody cancelled anyone, nobody got called a nazi. Nobody got censored or deplatformed. Chill out 😁

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            Who cares about downvotes though, honestly?

            Your average person cares very much, and this topic is about getting more of them to join lemmy.

            This isn’t about how I feel about people being shits. I clearly don’t care. This is about growing lemmy.

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              Do you have any source confirming that the average person cares about downvotes? Did you consider lurkers? I’m not convinced, myself, but I have nothing to back my position.

              I thought the topic was to show that redditors were talking about Lemmy, I did not know it was about getting more people aboard. There was no such indication in the community’s sidebar, or in the post itself.

              But now that you mention it, lots of people are talking about that in the comments. Maybe I just shouldn’t be here!

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                It’s social disapproval; most people care about social approval–it’s human nature. When googling the question, Ican’t find scientific studies, but general conversation where pretty much everyone involved agrees that downvotes are at least disappointing and at can make people not want to participate.

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                Do you have any source confirming that the average person cares about downvotes?

                Asking for a source on this is silly. Go to any reddit thread.

                I thought the topic was to show that redditors were talking about Lemmy

                The thread linked is a person trying to convince people to come to lemmy.

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                  That’s what I thought, this is a gut feeling, which I guess is as good as mine.

                  I know the person on Reddit is trying to get people to join, but I interpreted the linking as a way to say “look, reddit is talking about us”. Which, as you suggest, is not the right interpretation.

                  I have no interest in participating in Lemmy’s market strategy workshops. Enjoy your day!