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so I will make you a deal: I’ll vote my conscience, and you vote yours.
and in the meantime we organize, and after, we organize
you should know i am earnest. i’m learning how to snark. i try to say what i mean and mean what i say.
sometimes i do try to make jokes, but I am not sarcastic.
so I will make you a deal: I’ll vote my conscience, and you vote yours.
and in the meantime we organize, and after, we organize
>think asking what you personally risk from a Trump vs Biden presidency speaks to whether your insufferable self-righteousness is gambling with other people’s lives at no cost to you.
appealing to emotion doesn’t change the truth values of any of your claims, either.
my identity doesn’t change the truth of anything i’ve said. it has no bearing on this conversation, but your attempt to raise it implies you are going to be attempting to use my identity rhetorically. that’s called “ad hominem”, when you attack the speaker instead of what they have said.
>I assume you haven’t seen enough elections to understand that yet.
condescension and baseless attacks on my identity wont get me to vote for fascists
this is an appeal to ridicule. it is not a rebuttal
on the one hand there is gerrymandering which has the effect of splitting up voting blocks.
on the other hand there is the lie that votes are owned by or owed to only two parties, and any vote outside of those two parties is stolen by the so-called third parties.
in fact, the votes belong to voters, and it is up to them to decide who they want to vote for, and it is up to the politicians to try to win those votes.
>Voting is a practical, strategic act, not an ideological one.
every act is morally good, amoral, or immoral. it’s immoral to vote for bad people.
you may think ends justify the means. you may think your strategy is better or more moral. i disagree.
>If splitting votes didn’t matter, there wouldn’t be so much effort put into gerrymandering.
you’re falling prey here to a logical fallacy called equivocation. splitting is used in two distinct senses in electoral politics, and you are taking one of its uses and purporting that it supports the validity of the other use. it does not AND the other use is misleading at best, but i believe it’s genuinely dishonest and manipulative.
> Your original “only” indicates that you think that votes + splitting your opponents votes isn’t a strategy.
you are putting words inmy mouth. i explained what i said. i’m the authority on what i meant.
its true. if no one votes for a candidate, it doesnt matter how manyvotes any other candidate gets.
this doesnt change the truth of what i said
democrats are fascist.
only a vote for a candidate helps that candidate
>Yep.
he has not made any progress toward that, nor has he even stated it as a goal.
so you’re not going to vote for him, are you?
negotiate. i called my last carrier from my new carriers retail store front. they practically begged me to stay and said they’d give me everything i asked for.
not to be a shill, but i have xfinity mobile, and they gave me unlimited tethering. there is service degradation at some point, but i haven’t ever hit it or if i have i haven’t noticed it.
>Would you find it acceptable if Biden negotiated a deal where the Palestinian genocide would stop if half of Gaza fell under Israel’s total control?
gaza is under israels total control and has been for decades. and of course i want the dissolution of israel, just as i want the dissolution of russia, ukraine, the usa, britain, china, etc.
i want a world where everyone is equal and everyone is free.
>Anything short of Russia’s total retreat is unacceptable
if it were up to me there would be no russia
she might. i don’t honestly know.
is that your standard for biden, too?
it seems like your going to vote for someone. I say vote for who you think you should.