And when they perform raids, they should be required to shout “This is a F.A.C.T. jack”! Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Counterpoint: Neither of those organizations should exist at all.
Yea, they take up too much funding that could be used for other orgs!
…wait a minute
hah, I read that as “other drugs” and was confused to your point.
Cops are always power tripping. Would be good to have less law junkies.
Yea, useful ones like medicare and social services, right?! … right…?
Woah there buddy, if you want housing, food and healthcare, go get incarcerated like everyone else.
You misspelt join the military.
It’s honourable to escape poverty by being a paid killer.
Less than 15% of the military see actual combat.
Most people end up in a support role that helps facilitate paid killers.
I don’t think CIA_chatbot agrees with you
Orgies! Yeah!
Cannabis should be regulated by the FDA like any other vegetable. I should be able to buy weed at the farmer’s market. Nobody says “oh you can only have two and a half ounces of kale at your house”, “oh you can only grow so many tomatoes”, “oh out of state residents can’t buy more than a 12 pack”
Waaait if I am a US resident and go accross a state line im not allowed to buy a 30 pack of beer? Crossing a country border doesn’t even prevent that.
That’s what I’m saying, nobody does that because it would be insane. But an Iowa resident coming to Illinois can only get 15 grams of weed at a licensed adult use dispensary. Opposed to an Illinois resident who can get 30.
Crossing a country border doesn’t even prevent that.
Really depends on what countries you’re talking about.
At the very least, you’re likely to need to pay taxes on the goods, which is part of what the state laws are about. Confederacies like the EU maybe excepted.
Sure if I take it back over the border. The scenario I had in my mind was going to see friends or taking it back to a hotel room.
I’ve lost track of what concern you had and in what scenario and why it was bad compared to what, but ok.
You can’t do that with tobacco, why allow it with cannabis?
In fairness, I think I should be able to get tobacco at the farmer’s market too. But regardless of my personal feelings, I can buy as many smokes as I want in Iowa and they’re like half the price of Illinois smokes.
There is no state in the country where tobacco isn’t age-restricted, which is what I’m focused on here. It’s incredibly normal and routine for us to restrict certain things behind being a legal adult.
Making cannabis or tobacco equivalent to zucchini would be a complete sea-change in how we think of minors and their decision-making abilities.
There’s no reason that I couldn’t check someone’s ID at my hypothetical farmer’s market stand. And the bigger ones around here have dudes that sell like microbrewed meads and shit, so you can’t tell me it’s not already happening.
There’s no reason that I couldn’t check someone’s ID at my hypothetical farmer’s market stand.
No reason other than discussing in good faith, which means not moving the goalpost. You set the original hypothetical of cannabis being legally equivalent to squash, not me.
And the bigger ones around here have dudes that sell like microbrewed meads and shit, so you can’t tell me it’s not already happening.
Again, you set the original goalpost of discussing legal status.
My original comment was mostly an unhinged rant lamenting the current state of legalization more than an actual policy proposal, but I do think I should be able to buy and sell cannabis at the farmer’s market.
I knew a guy a long time ago who said “Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should not be a branch of the government. It should be a convenience store.”
Not that I agreed with him, but it was an amusing and unexpected take.
I give to you the ATF Convenience Store in Kingman, AZ
https://www.google.com/maps/place/ATF+Convenience+Store,+853+S+Ty+Rd,+Kingman,+AZ+86401/
While it doesn’t work as well with or as your joke, the ATF is actually now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. So we need to add the E as well and we can spell FACET, which is less fun. Or use M for Marijuana and spell FMEAT.
Combine Weed and Tobacco into “Smoking” and make it SAFE
Where is the C coming from? Firearms, Alcohol, C, Explosives, Tobacco?
Cannabis.
Gotcha, thanks
Or MEFAT and lobby to take over FDA
America is not everywhere. At least mention the country where your question applies to instead of thinking you’re the center of the internet. Before we try to find a connection between Automatic Transmission Fluid and Data Encryption Algorithm .
Not to be pedantic, but neither Automatic Transmission Fluid nor Data Encryption Algorithms have any kind of jurisdiction in any country on the planet. Op provided enough context clues to understand the country they’re talking about.
The only crime they committed is not including three words in a bracket to say “everywhere (in the US)” while still mentioning the jurisdiction of the three letter agencies in that country.
Is it US centralism thinking? Sure. But it’s not like OP left out all the necessary info to determine where and what they were talking about. Not to mention their entire post is a joke with a clear punchline. I don’t think anyone here is too stupid to understand the use of “jurisdiction” in OPs message, or the punchline it leads to, so why are you pretending to be that way to make a point? It simply weakens your point.
Imo there are much better places and comments to point out US exceptionalism BS than a throw away joke with enough context clues to understand it.
Its still illegal at a federal level and I don’t see that changing any time soon. You can’t smoke your pot and work for the government.
Unfortunately it still falls under schedule 1. Even if states legalize it the federal government still considers it the same danger as heroin.
Don’t get me wrong. It shouldn’t be but until we get a federal law changing that then it’s still going to fall under DEA.
And unfortunately, the scheduling is determined by none other than the DEA itself. So I wouldn’t hold my breath on them forfeiting funding and purview over of anything as trivial as medical research or the will of the people. At least not easily or without some other political quid pro quo.
DEA added it by an order from the AG under Nixon.
Biden could get it removed the same way if he wanted to actually hold up on his campaign promise.
It’s administered by the DEA but the HHS actually makes recommendations and has recently recommended it be rescheduled to schedule III. There is no history of the DEA rejecting a rescheduling recommendation so things look good for this to change fairly soon!
DEA ultimately has final say though. And we are definitely living in tumultuous if not unprecedented times.
Technically, all times are unprecedented since we don’t repeat years!
The times we’re living in? Definitely tumultuous, definitely not unprecedented. Political strife? There are obvious comparisons being made with the 1930s or the 1850s. Covid? The Spanish flu ravaged the world a century ago. Drug legalization? How about the end of Prohibition?
It turns out that a lot of people really just like shouting “unprecedented” because it makes their speech sound more dramatic.
Well, there’s more people now then ever. The environment is either at or past an irreversible tipping point. Every year being either the coldest, the hottest, the wettest, or the driest in recorded time. We have too much CO2 and not enough potable water. The ice caps are melting, the choral is bleaching, the sea is rising, and bugs are on the ropes. We’ve got fascism problems in basically every country simultaneously. Not to mention there is frank discussion about not whether or not there are aliens, but what about them should be declassified and discussed with the public. Our terrestrial telescopes can’t see shit because of the sheer volume of satellites blanketing the night sky. And we’ve got cascading humanitarian crisis being captured in high definition and beamed to our 24 hour pocket sized global information machines, but all anyone seems to care about is what genitals you pledge allegiance to.
There may be precedents for these times, but they are the type of precedents that immediatly precede a global cataclysms. If anything your average person is not being dramatic enough.
climate change, tipping point
Yeah, fair point. The bit about “coldest, hottest, wettest, driest” is pure BS, though. I need receipts if you honestly believe that, but I think it’s just an ill-considered rhetorical flourish.
fascism problems
Definitely not unprecedented.
aliens
OK, now you’ve lost me. I’m not terribly interested in going into conspiracy-theory land.
The 10 warmest years in the historical record have all occurred since 2010.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature
In July, David Grusch, a former intelligence official, testified that the U.S. government was holding nonhuman bodies taken from U.F.O. crash sites, that the military is misusing funds to cover up a “U.A.P. crash retrieval and reverse engineering program,” and that people had been injured in efforts to conceal these operations. He also alleged retaliation from his superiors for previously making similar claims. The Pentagon has denied the allegations.
On Friday, some lawmakers saw tantalizing hints in Mr. Monheim’s presentation that there might have been something to Mr. Grusch’s claims and, while the rules of a classified briefing barred them from actually repeating what they had learned, they suggested the inspector general had found some of the claims credible. Which ones? No one would say.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/12/us/politics/ufos-aliens-classified-briefing.html
Sounds like a good time to withhold funding ☺️
It’s only under schedule 1 for now. The HHS told the DEA to remove it, so it’s only a matter of time now.
If you’ve ever had to deal with the ATF you know why this is a magnificently terrible idea.
FDA all the way.
Either hhs or fda.
Speaking of HHS (from NYT):
Marijuana is neither as risky nor as prone to abuse as other tightly controlled substances and has potential medical benefits, and therefore should be removed from the nation’s most restrictive category of drugs, federal scientists have concluded.
The recommendations are contained in a 250-page scientific review provided to Matthew Zorn, a Texas lawyer who sued Health and Human Services officials for its release and published it online on Friday night. An H.H.S. official confirmed the authenticity of the document.
But sadly
Last month, Michael D. Miller, a Justice Department official, defended the D.E.A.’s prerogative in making the final decision on the administration’s position.
“D.E.A. has the final authority to schedule, reschedule, or deschedule a drug under the Controlled Substances Act, after considering the relevant statutory and regulatory criteria and H.H.S.’s scientific and medical evaluation,” he wrote in a letter to Representative Earl Blumenauer, an Oregon Democrat who has pushed the D.E.A. to reconsider marijuana.
I see no motivation for the DEA to voluntarily forfeit power and money just because it’s the right thing to do. Also think of career DEA guys’ pride and ego. They are not going to easily admit they’ve been wrong and that their rhetoric has been overheated for the past 50 years.
I don’t want the FDA involved considering how they fucked with vaping.
Fun fact, while working “the season” in NorCal before it was legalized (when it was still crazy lucrative to do so), the ATF and CAMP were the ones raiding the farms, not the DEA.
Mainly because of the lack of ATF oversight and their FUCKING MASSIVE operations budget.
If people really understood what they have done in the past, that agency would be dissolved overnight.
I don’t even understand why those 3 things are together in the first place. None of those things go together in any kind of way I can think of that there would be an organization dedicated to them.
Dip, beer and guns go together like “peas and carrots”
Things that are legal for personal use but heavily restricted
Yes
Who is Jack?
nope. It should be regulated by each state. The federal government should just back off.
Or, we could stop pretending that a plant is harmful to society instead of using it as an excuse to put brown people in prison.
Not seeing the connection here. In my country we consider it’s harmful even though we have extremely few brown people
Your country is just as stupid as the US, then.
So if we had more brown people it would be different??
I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion, but no.
The word “then” maybe
Well, you came to the wrong conclusion. Your country is dumb for making a plant illegal. Nothing to do with brown people.
