e; I wrote a better headline than the ABC editors decided to and excerpted a bit more
According to the poll, conducted using Ipsos’ Knowledge Panel, 86% of Americans think Biden, 81, is too old to serve another term as president. That figure includes 59% of Americans who think both he and former President Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, are too old and 27% who think only Biden is too old.
Sixty-two percent of Americans think Trump, who is 77, is too old to serve as president. There is a large difference in how partisans view their respective nominees – 73% of Democrats think Biden is too old to serve but only 35% of Republicans think Trump is too old to serve. Ninety-one percent of independents think Biden is too old to serve, and 71% say the same about Trump.
Concerns about both candidates’ ages have increased since September when an ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 74% of Americans thought Biden – the oldest commander in chief in U.S. history – was too old to serve another term as president, and 49% said the same about Trump.
Part that drew my eye,
The poll also comes days after the Senate failed to advance a bipartisan foreign aid bill with major new border provisions.
Americans find there is blame to go around on Congress’ failure to pass legislation intended to decrease the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border – with about the same number blaming the Republicans in Congress (53%), the Democrats (51%) and Biden (49%). Fewer, 39%, blame Trump.
More Americans trust that Trump would do a better job of handling immigration and the situation at the border than Biden – 44%-26% – according to the poll.
So that bipartisan border bill stunt was terrible policy, and it doesn’t seem to have done anything for the Democratic party politically
Can we please stop trying to compromise with fascists now?
Well, too bad. Those are the only two viable options, so most likely it’s going to be one or the other. The time to do something about it has long passed. All we can do is hope Trump is jailed or either of them die.
There was NEVER anything any of us could do. The moment Biden announced he would run for reelection, everyone who mattered fell in line.
As it should be. Anything else would have been giving the GOP a golden ticket for their golden turd
No, it should not be.
There was once a time when politicians would use election time to debate the president anyway, allowing up and coming politicians to get their views and voice out there while also letting the current president show their strength, conviction, and skill even within their own party. Time that’s used for inter-Party debates is time where that party’s points are being broadcast to all, as well.
But now that we’re all so scared Trump’s gonna win were tossing that in the garbage because “any question to Biden at all means we get a fascist!”, which is only gonna bite the US in the ass when Dems eventually have nobody that’s well known ready to take the seat
Biden absolutely should have been challenged in the primaries by competent Dems that will be the next generation
This was an anomaly that happened during the post-war era for a couple decades and ended when Newt Gingrich came along. Before that, the politician that could afford the most booze got elected.
You’re wanting ambivalent debate during a war.
The Right has weaponized propaganda. They are extremely effective had taking any perceived weakness in their opponent, and blowing it out of proportion that even non-Right leading voters believe their new talking point is a real problem.
The landscape of politics has changed. Until we can get back to normal philosophical difference between adults, we can not let the Dems implode in inner fighting, as they are known to do.
I wholly reject your argument. There is a time and place for your idealistic model. This is not it. This country is hanging on by a thread, and the GOP is actively trying to cut it.
Edit - you downvoters are acting like we didn’t just get Trump in 2016 largely because of infighting in the Left that disenfranchised voters. And we’ll be paying the consequences for a generation because of it.
To many idealists here that can’t see the forest for the trees.
I neither up nor downvoted you, but really have no idea what you’re trying to say.
I was refuting that open debate against the incumbent president would be good for the Dems. That the DNC funding alternate candidates would be a net positive. My argument is that it could only result in division, and would greatly improve the GOP’s position.
Well at this point, it certainly would. We’re too far into the process. But for next time, this needs to be done differently.
Agree when there’s no incumbent, and there’s no MAGA nazi front runner. And if the Dems run clean campaigns without dragging their fellow Dems through the mud.
For the time being, the stakes are too high to give the GOP any ammo, at all.
Nonsense. I think it would be hard to find anyone under 50 that wouldn’t wipe the floor with trumps broken corpse. The only person Trump has a chance again is an octogenarian with no persona.
Best government ever created by man, right there
Nothing in the Constitution bars Trump from holding the Office of the President while in a super max prison.
Absolutely nothing.
Maybe, but good luck doing it from there.
I think congress would have to make a ruling on that and I doubt they would say that he could be president in prison.
Congress has no say here unless they decide to try an impeachment and then the Senate would have to remove. Otherwise, there’s nothing to stop this from happening. You’d genuinely have secret service people in the prison and intelligence officers doing daily briefings and the VP would be the one to be present for events, meetings, etc.
Democrats 2024: Well, too bad.
Yeah it sucks, but I’d vote for a ham sandwich over Trump.
And you don’t see that as the end of your country? Nothing else left to do but vote for ham sandwiches? Lol
I thought y’all liked freedom or some shit.
Trust me, I would love for the Republicans to nominate a well qualified candidate - or for us to use something like ranked choice voting so we could pick candidates that closer align with our personal beliefs.
But until those things happen, in ham sandwich v Trump, I’d take ham sandwich every time.
The ham sandwich allowed record oil production, agreed with republicans that the border needs to be armed, breaks strikes, is 80 years old, is guilty of aiding in a genocide, attacked multiple targets in the middle east, and goes behind Congress back to make arms deals.
See the problem?
If you’re suggesting I don’t vote or throw away my vote on a third party candidate, that’s a hard pass.
Not very bright, I see.
Is
TruckTrump actually able to run for president?Edit: typo.
No, but he’ll be allowed to anyways
I just find it really weird that you can be under such heavy legal proceedings and still be eligible to hold office, like in general. If a teacher is suspected of being inappropriate with students, they’re pulled. If a president is inappropriate with democracy, they can run a second term?
Last time I expressed my incredulousness over this, I was told “innocent until proven guilty”, but again, with the above example; if a teacher is suspected of being inappropriate towards student, they are pulled and put on leave for the investigation.
It seems to me that Trump shouldn’t be allowed to be the president incumbent until all the legal stuff he’s through clears.
Also, innocent until proven guilty is how the government treats the accused (well, theoretically, lots of poor people get to rot in jail because they don’t have bail money). If you saw someone punch a baby you don’t need to wait for a court decision to kick them off your softball team.
Like on one hand I get that, but on the other, that feels like a really relaxed attitude to an attempted coup. Like if there are any doubts whatsoever that someone tried to undermine the democratic systems, perhaps they shouldn’t be eligible to hold the position of president until the doubts are cleared.
Just feels like a sensible precaution to me. Does it suck for the person if they’re innocent? Absolutely, but not as much as being imprisoned for decades on a crime they didn’t do. The vast majority of people miss out on being the president, so it really isn’t that big of a deal.
The issue is who’s making that decision? I for one don’t think the 14th requires a conviction, but there would have to be a remedy to challenge it and stay on the ballot if someone was making the choice for political reasons. Those challenges need to be super fast tracked too. It’s already unacceptably late for there to be a question of whether a leading candidate can be president and lots of people along the chain are all to blame for waiting this long.
And the Republican party is a private entity. They should have denied him a place on their primary ballot.