• fidodo@lemmy.world
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      The fuck is safety capitalism? Is it just some bullshit word for people who don’t want to say socialism? Fuck, if that’s what it takes for people to accept socialism then they can call it whatever the fuck they want.

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        Social democracy isn’t sexy enough of a word I suppose. It would be capitalism but with a safety net

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            Out of all countries, social democratic Nordic countries are probably doing the best. Pretty good going imo.

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              also looking at those countries we can see it isn’t a permanent fix though. Capitalists don’t stop fighting and will be successful in the long run

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                I mean that’s going to be the same for every country and every solution.

                I’m not saying the work is done or that Nordic countries are anywhere near perfect or anything. Just that considering how others are doing, social democracy at least in the Nordic countries has done really well imo.

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                Very little? None of them have been big colonial countries (Denmark was the biggest and they were a pretty small player) and Finland was itself a colonized country. Not sure if Iceland counts as a colonized country since I don’t think there lived anyone there beforehand.

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                Hm, Africa, the Caribbean, Indochina, all bloodily plundered by, lessee here… ah yes, the people of the Nordic countries

                [yes I know nobody is innocent and the Sami would have some words but come the fuck on now]

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      Or just basic equality … more specifically WEALTH EQUALITY

      to remove the power of the wealthy to get even more wealthy by exploiting everyone faster

      And to give more power to those with little or no money and give them a chance to gain a bit of wealth.

      Honestly if we just created a civilization where we spread the money around a little more equally, we’d have less psychopaths controlling the world and more people wanting to cooperate in making things better.

      It wouldn’t create a utopia because we’re too complicated to be happy with one another but it would make our situation more tolerable and manageable.

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        Anarchism has too many forms and communism doesn’t work on a large scale (greed and corruption are too easy).

        I’m not saying capitalism is working!!

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            Lol yes it has, we just know the end results. Stop acting like communism hasn’t been tried.

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                I see you tankies don’t know what it is at all. My family has lived through that shit, so you can kindly go fuck yourself. Bad capitalism is 1000xs better than anything communism can spit out.

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          Socialism exists only as a stepping stone to the end goal of anarchism/communism.

          If you don’t believe those work, there is no point in advocating for socialism.

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              Okay.

              But you do realise the Soviet Union was socialist right? We kinda need to move away from the state based control model.

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                  An anarchist/communist based society.

                  We see time and time again what happens when you give all the power to a small subset of society.

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                    I’m all for a classless society, but we need a structure for governing. I’d say a global structure. But I don’t think humans are capable of that kind of thing. Greed and prejudice are too powerful.