• gabe [he/him]@literature.cafe
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    7 months ago

    For context, there’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes when it comes to lemmy admin stuff especially in the matrix channels. There is a significant frustration and lack of confidence in the lemmy developers at this point. Even those who try to contribute to the project get eventually feeling pushed out.

    • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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      Based on what I’ve seen on the public facing part of the developer side, I get the feeling this isn’t the kind of group that can build the kind of organization required to make this sustainable in the long run.

      I’m just waiting for when Beehaw releases that they’ve given up on Lemmy and have created a new tech stack.

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        It’s open source. We don’t have to depend on the original developers.

        If it gets too bad, someone can just make a fork.

        Afaik people are just impatient with the developers and have different short term goals.

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          I mention a new tech stack because Beehaw brought it up as an option and a lot of people have commented on the difficulty of development in this environment.

            • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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              Rust seems like a great foundation.

              The fact that I know you’re referring to the programming language called “Rust” doesn’t make this sentence any less funny.

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              It could still be rust. Code is always the easy part. Design and organization and funding are hard

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        In terms of new tech stack currently theres sublinks being made by devs/admins of a bunch of instances (discuss.online, lemmy.world, programming.dev, etc.)

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      7 months ago

      That sucks. As a 3rd party Lemmy app developer, I’ve only had positive interactions with the Lemmy devs. They’re even being proactive in communications.

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        7 months ago

        Try submitting a pull request for something in one of the core repos.

        They behave as if every line of code in your commit is a sentence proclaiming “Why yes, your wife is a whore, your dog doesn’t love you, AND your baby is ugly.”

        I’m not kidding, there’s no hyperbole in that statement. Go read some of their declined pull requests threads for some entertainment.

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      7 months ago

      Even those who try to contribute to the project get eventually feeling pushed out.

      Submitting a pull request to one of their repos on Github was really an experience, and I can tell you that I will never submit another one to the Lemmy project while they’re still the lead devs based on that experience.

    • cum@lemmy.cafe
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      7 months ago

      What about kbin, isn’t that entirely different software that can be developed to phase out Lemmy?

      • MBM@lemmings.world
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        7 months ago

        From what I heard Kbin’s developer is very inactive, so people started a fork called Mbin. Mbin might be alright?

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      7 months ago

      Perhaps there’s starting to be a Lemmy clone/alternative? I think it’s named Sublinks

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      7 months ago

      Better to publish such issues on a public website than let it get buried in matrix. People other than devs & instance admins need to be aware of the risks that they’re taking when using Lemmy.