They won’t. The party exists to serve the rich.
Yeah, they know, and it scares them.
There’s a reason they sidelined Sanders when he would have easily won in 2016
This has been on my mind every time the DNC tries to position themselves as a party for the people. As far as I’m concerned, they showed their hand, and apparently they thought no one would notice.
There is nowhere to run.
Democrats = the party of the rich
Republicans = the party of the rich
MAGA = the grift of the richWe’re going to be voting for the lesser evil for at least a few more cycles. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea not to vote though.
We can be so much more creative than that. There are mountains of actions we can take in addition to voting to change things.
Why should we accept that the only people we can vote for are evil? Every US election has been this way for at least 20 years now. One less than the other everytime (depending on perspective) but if the only options are widely seen as evil, we must do something to change this.
We don’t have to accept it—that’s what primaries are for. But there are people out there who lose the primary and then they just don’t vote—that is the time people should choose the lesser of two evils. Simply not voting is just giving up the tiny shred of control you actually have.
Of course, if you feel strongly about a candidate, it is a good idea to make calls, put up signs, or anything else to help them win. But, as we saw with Bernie, even a massive grassroots effort isn’t always enough.
We don’t have to accept it—that’s what primaries are for. But there are people out there who lose the primary and then they just don’t vote—that is the time people should choose the lesser of two evils.
No. They should not. Stop lecturing people who are fighting something better and start lecturing the people voting for absolute trash in the primaries.
Just remember Bernie’s legacy…
As I see it, he won the nomination. More people voted for him, and the super delegates fucked it all up. The party even admitted this back in 1982 that their intention is to prevent “outlier candidates” from securing a nomination. The Democratic Party is very undemocratic until we can toss superdelegates altogether. I say that, but it doesn’t appear to have worked for the Republican Party either, they just shrug and toss out all the votes regardless of who won in their caucuses. Look at Ron Paul in Iowa 2008, obviously won by a large enough percentage to eliminate the margin for error…but fuck it. Iowa’s Republican chair handed it over anyway and when the news was published he just “resigned” and the damage was already done.
That sentiment that it scares them though, has happened before to BOTH parties. 1890 had both parties on the run as we were embroiled in shooting battles against law enforcement due to working conditions and pay.
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Almost all of the head to head polls Had Bernie doing better than Hillary
He also won the Wisconsin primary and the Michigan primary in spite of the DNC leadership and propaganda machine being firmly behind Hillary from the beginning.
Hillary lost those states, ultimately costing her the election, and there’s no indication that Bernie would have lost any of the states she won.
I’m pretty sure Bernie won a lot of primaries. He got 72% of the vote in Washington: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/primaries/washington
Edit: Yeah he won quite a few: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
Yup, he did, and he would have won the general.
They singled out those two states because they were ones Hillary lost in the general
I agree. If a democrat ran up and garroted Jeff Bezos, or went all Tanya Harding on Elon Musk’s knees, I would vote for them.
Literally, if a politician was imprisoned for firebombing a billionaires house I would be intrigued by their campaign.
I love how the post I saw immediately before this was about Biden’s new Trump insult, ‘Broke Don’. So insult your rivals by calling them poor, definitely a good way to relate to struggling voters.
Yeah well Biden doesn’t really need to appeal to liberals and progressives when it comes to Trump. However making his idiotic base doubt him by calling me poor little bitch will definitely weaken Trump’s position.
For 8 years now his base has been firmly convinced that the mainstream establishment is an enemy of Trump and ‘the people’. From what I’ve seen any words against Trump coming from establishment liberals is more likely to entrench Trumps support than weaken it.
It’s pointing out that he is weak. Literally one of the main reasons people liked him was that he “couldn’t be bought” and he was going to “self fund his campaign”
Remember, before this they were just saying how scary Trump was. I think mocking him is far more effective
Trumpers are defective high schoolers, winning the name calling game. Is the key for Biden defeating Trump.
No it’s not normal or intelligent, but it is Trump’s supporters…
However making his idiotic base doubt him by calling me poor little bitch will definitely weaken Trump’s position.
Thanks for taking one for the team, poor little bitch.
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“Broke Don” is a masterpiece.
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Consume the wealthy.
Eat the rich.
I keep seeing the press wheeling out example of “the rich” like somebody on £100k who can barely afford their mortgage, like it’s my fucking fault they can’t live within their means.
Do what the rest of us do, tighten our belts and deal with it. Don’t come to me with a sob story about your mortgage on a 4 bedroom detached Surrey house when there’s people who can barely afford rent to live in what was once somebody’s kitchen.
Middle class is not the same as the rich. Trying to get various groups of not rich people against each other has been a time tested tactic to keep everyone from acting against the rich. First it was race but now it’s trying to put the rural vs urban, the less fortunate vs the slightly less fortunate, union vs non union, etc.
Totally agree. Somebody who makes 100k aren’t the problem at all, its the people who make salaries with at least a couple of more zeros added to the end. The people that OP should be mad at aren’t ever struggling to pay a bill.
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£100k per year is not middle class, it’s the top 3% of the country.
I grew up middle class, my family are lawyers, high level civil servants, software engineers. I don’t know anyone who earns £100k.
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This is a composition effect. Democratic candidates who run for safer, more left-wing constituencies feel free to propose more radical left-wing policies, especially if their main threats are other democrats during primaries. They then go on to win because they’re not running in competitive elections. You can use the same reasoning to conclude that Republicans who attack abortion and socialism do better in elections.
I don’t buy it. Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states. Centrist Democrats have nothing to offer to Republican voters to change their minds. Progressives speak directly to the economic issues that plague red states.
I mean, red states elected a billionaire because he was a billionaire.
But Centrist Democrats think that if they just kick progressives harder, they’ll gain the favor of the three remaining moderate Republicans.
They elected a billionaire because he attacked other billionaires. He voices their rage at the “elitists” in Washington, and he pretends to be one of them.
I think they hate the “generic billionaire”, but are they any actual billionaires they hate?
Bill Gates and George Soros are a pretty obvious examples.
The only notable counter-examples are rich celebrities that give them permission to be shitty, like Trump and Elon.
And they love oil barons, and bankers are their heroes, and Jeff bezos is soooo cool with his penis rockets.
They really love billionaires more than they hate them. They just don’t like the charity ones.
Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states
(citation needed)
They often just call them elitists, bankers, or “Jews”.
That’s not supporting evidence.
“That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.”
Where is the evidence to the contrary? That was the original assertion.
No, it wasn’t.
I asked for evidence for a claim. You didn’t give one.
That only proves that they hate Jews more than blue states.
Republicans equating “elite bankers” with Jews, and then you equating that to billionaires, doesn’t actually make them the same thing you know…
Doesn’t matter if they don’t actually do anything though…
But they won’t, because once they get into Congress they get just as tied to big money as any other politician. Plus, there all too busy trying to chase after Republican voters, even though they’ll never, ever vote for a Democrat.
Why multiple mics from the same station?
A few things, more exposure/advertising space, and redundancy, especially in a time where mics were really inconsistent, if one mic goes down, you have another still recording.
So they can broadcast *in stereo*
I need my binaural audio of a political speech so I can hear them lying in dolby 7.1
Same reason they have multiple camera crews these days, I would think? 🤔
also, what’s an MBS. I guess I could google it but I’m on mobile and lazy.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Broadcasting_System
The Mutual Broadcasting System (commonly referred to simply as Mutual; sometimes referred to as MBS, Mutual Radio or the Mutual Radio Network) was an American commercial radio network in operation from 1934 to 1999. In the golden age of U.S. radio drama, Mutual was best known as the original network home of The Lone Ranger and The Adventures of Superman and as the long-time radio residence of The Shadow. For many years, it was a national broadcaster for Major League Baseball (including the All-Star Game and World Series), the National Football League, and Notre Dame Fighting Irish football. From the mid-1930s and until the retirement of the network in 1999, Mutual ran a highly respected news service accompanied by a variety of popular commentary shows. In the late 1970s, Mutual pioneered the nationwide late night call-in talk radio program, introducing the country to Larry King and later, Jim Bohannon.
What’s up with the thread? An I the only one seeing almost every comment at 0 net votes?
Actually it seems to be every thread on lemmy.world. Hmm.
Not seeing it on my end. I am using Voyager on a sh.it just.works account.
rip mbs
Going to read the article now, but before doing so I’m wondering if they controlled for the fact that safer seats are more likely to be in a position to take stronger positions on it, or might be forced to take stronger positions on it because the primary threat is during the primary.
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