Can’t wait to graduate so I don’t have to run Respondus and keep dealing with this crap
This whole rapey lingo needs to fucking die already.
No means no, corporations. Not “maybe later”, not “remind me later”…it’s a yes or a no.
Every company does it now and I’m sick to death of it. Even for the free trials like YouTube Premium. I don’t want your fucking shit. Leave me alone.
YouTube shorts are my latest annoyance. They give you an x to hide it then says we’ll try again in 30 days. Shorts were a dumb idea on vine, a dumber idea on tiktok, and just about the dumbest idea on YouTube. If I wanted a sub-30 second clip I’d watch a gif.
I don’t think shorts are bad, but they aren’t the reason I go to YouTube at all. They are just in the way.
I wouldn’t even mind them as much if they showed you who posted the short before you watched it. There are a few creators I like enough that I’d watch shorts by, but I’ve got no way to know it’s by them
I agree. Shorts are just a way for me to discover new creators when I’m on the toilet since my recommendations page sucks now and never recommends new creators to me.
Collaberations and word-of-mouth are the main ways I find new creators, the algorithm sucks at understanding the finer points.
I would argue that they were a good idea on Vine. It allowed them to stay away from other platforms.
The other annoying thing they (esp. MS) do is pop up messages like “The whole process of saving files has changed while you were asleep [learn more][got it]” and here, when you need it, there’s never an option for “remind me later”. So you either have to stop what you’re doing and go and read a massive blog entry that’s not actually relevant to the task in hand or you need to dismiss the message and never be able to find it when it’s actually relevant
Linux/FreeBSD and piracy are like the only way to mostly avoid this crap now lol.
Which will make you see it anyway in any consumer product or service other than the computer OS.
There’s at all plenty one can do with FOSS stuff without needing to resort to that, but ya, in geraral that’s true
Every shopping site now wants you to sign up for some kind of discount or offer as well.
Instead of “No thanks” or “No, I don’t want to subscribe”, the reject button always says “No, I want to pay full price” or “No, I don’t like savings” and other manipulative bs.
Makes me not want to shop there.
And a lot of them don’t even wait for you to find something to buy, you just show up and it’s “HEY DO YOU WANT A DISCOUNT?”
This whole rapey lingo needs to fucking die already.
Maybe widely name-calling this practice for what it is could help steer companies away from this disgusting pattern.
Should we start refering to pop-ups that give no option to say “no” as something like “rape-ups”?
We need a community! I am really annoyed by this, it is rapey and gaslighting and abusive. Another one they started to do is “You are almost finished with your updates”, updates that i didn’t request nor allow.
We need words, customized pitchforks and a leader to recover dignity!
There’s already one. it’s called the linux community
Just use Linux
It is not only Windows, it is common in all apps, but i get the point
Yes! It really is that. Just like how so many men are taught to never take “no” as an answer from a woman, and to keep pestering her until she gives in.
Scumbag design: cave in now or get pestered again in a few days
“It’s important we give our users a choice.”
“… and then just keep giving them that same choice over and over again for as long as it takes for them to finally do what we want.”
The floggings will continue until morale improves.
Literal malware techniques. MS learned well from all the viruses that infected Windows in the 2000s
This is a thing that annoys me and it’s not just Microsoft doing this: there’s never a “No” button, it’s always “Not now” or “Maybe later”. As if i’m going to reconsider. As if it’s an honest offer worth thinking about and not a pop-up.
They should rename “remind me later” to “nag me later”.
In the history of pop-ups, I’ve never wanted to be reminded later.
If anything, I’m even further disincentivised to log in if they’re threatening to remotely copy my hard drive. That just sounds like a scam.
Pro Tip: You can create a local only account on a New PC as long as you skip connecting to wifi during setup.
With the current Windows 11 installer this doesn’t work anymore.
But you can download the ISO, use Rufus to create a USB boot stick and disable all the requirements (account, RAM, TPM, CPU generation) in Rufus’ options. Also lets you auto-deny all telemetry options and create a user account without prompting.Why would you want Windows 11? Great tips, though.
Because Windows 10 Support runs out next year.
sounds like a great opportunity to abandon windows entirely
Quite a lot of people in my country still use Windows 7, even 4 whole years after support ended, they really don’t wanna give it up.
I wonder if the same will be true for Windows 10.
I guess “no” implies “this is your only chance to permanently decide”.
“Remind me later” is obviously going to be an annoying reminder.
“Maybe later” or “Not now” indicates it can be changed later, but might also come with annoying reminders.It’s like an annoying kiosk salesman at the mall but he’ll show up in your livingroom when you least expect it.
This is what life is like for women. So many men are taught to not take “no” for an answer, and just keep pressuring her, waiting for her to wear down and give in.
Can’t wait to graduate so I don’t have to run Respondus and keep dealing with this crap
Well, I’ve got some bad news depending on what industry you’re going into: the business world runs on Windows.
And the tech world will often force you to use a macbook, as well. As if Windows wasn’t locked down enough.
God I hate not being able to change FN and ctrl on a locked down mac that work gives me , also all the other limitations
Yeah but it pesters your sysadmin in your stead
Yeah this seems like a complete non-issue… All software has its problems and annoyances. Whether it’s Linux, MacOS or Windows they all have different levels of shit and annoying things you have to do.
windows is absolutely the worst of the bunch.
Depends on the person and their usage. For many Windows is the most appropriate.
Dont be a blind fanboy and just say that there is only solution for an OS and that’s Linux. If there’s one OS then it will inevitably get shit itself.
that’s not at all what my point was, go back and reread the thread.
Your point is “Windows is the worst of the bunch”.
It’s pretty basic/has no value… Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to disprove.
again re read the context. worst of the bunch in regards to the specific topic we were discussing.
in the future consider if you think someone is making such a stupid comment, maybe you are misunderstanding something.
I use Windows, and I honestly never see this stuff at all.
Haven’t used Linux/MacOS in a long time now but from this specific perspective they all appear the same to me. Or at worst, it’s easy to disable.
At this point the EU should just set a timer for complaining that Microsoft uses Windows’ large market share to force services on their users. I do like efficient governments.
EU has, so Microsoft basically made an EU version
How about Roku’s “Consent or we brick your TV?”
Linux, bro.
Linux.
Linux mostly works. It’s both fun and frustrating learning how to operate it. There’s only a couple things I can’t get to work on Linux which is annoying, but much less annoying than having to deal with MS.
The logic I always subscribe to is, issues in Linux can be fixed maybe not by you or me but someone at some point in the future. On a long enough timeline we win. Where as it’s not an issue with Windows, but a business decision to annoy you and thus can never be fixed.
The Arch of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
-Dr. Martin Linux King
It’s been like that for 20 years though. This is the future and it still isn’t ready
I’ve been daily driving it for 10 years, what’s the problem with it?
I haven’t used windows for 15 years, minimum
Because you’ve been trying to find drivers that work 😂😂
It’s so much better than it used to be though. There’s been a lot of real progress and there’s more interest than ever in creating a viable Linux consumer-grade desktop among foss developers and even corporations.
I’ll grant you it’s definitely not there yet for non-techies. But I do think we’ll get there eventually and I wouldn’t have said that 5 years ago.
honestly I think it’s 95% there and would get that last 4% if you could go to a retail store and just buy one. the perception would be enough to get hardware and software vendors to start supporting it in a very short time. kinda like how cyberpunk has a steam deck present.
Would it be over night? No but real change is never quick. Perception has to change before the change happens. Why do you think MS and other Software vendors pays so much money to PC manufacturers to stay on Windows.
Remember with a windows PC purchase and bloatware. You’re a customer and a product, your desktop is a billboard. So it’s against their interest to give you agency in what OS you use.
Most Windows issues and annoyances can be fixed pretty easily with registry tweaks. This specific issue requires you to go trough the major effort of changing a single 0 to a 2.
As long as its still easier to completely debloat windows instead of debugging Linux, your so called win is still far away.
And the demolition plans are in a disused washroom in the basement behind a sign that says “beware of the leopard.” That’s an absurd justification.
Normal users are not going to root around in the registry and twiddle things to mske the OS treat them with respect. Most of them won’t search for it, and many of those that do won’t have the skills to deploy a registry hack or identify legit info instead of malware or pranks.
The right answer is a third button-- “No, forever.” We all know it’s the right answer; I’m sure even Microsoft has focus group data. It doesn’t exist because someone in Redmond’s bonus is tied to how many people are cowed into signing up for OneDtive.
I’ve got a CS degree and 15 years of dev experience, and have come to the conclusion that you can’t negotiate in good faith with Windows anymore. It is going to take you down whichever hellpath their biz-dev team demands, and any attempts to fight it are going to be undermined and replaced with a new set of hacks or a differeny gauntlet of dark patterns for a few months later.
Maybe LTSC and Enterprise versions are a bit better, where they might have to preserve the goodwill of big dollar corporate customers instead of chasing some trifling revenue hack, but do we as ordinary users on home/pro licenses not deserve the same respect? And even there, don’t those business customers have to spend undue effort crafting and deploying policies to cram the endless stream of spam back in the box?
Normal users are not going to root around in the registry and twiddle things to mske the OS treat them with respect.
I absolutely agree with you, and this statement is absurd, given the context.
Recently I decided to try out gaming with linux. What was planned to be a weekend project turned into multiweek project, and it included a lot of “rooting around” to get things working the way I wanted them to. Maybe it’s linux treating me with respect, when I have to start planning for hibernation when I’m partitioning the drive. Maybe it isn’t.
(Aside, Valve has done great work with proton. It’s time to reconsider, if games are keeping you from switching over.)
What distribution did you try to use? Some of them are steeper to learn than others.
For background, my first linux was debian in late 90’s. I went through gentoo to ubuntu, until I got mac for work about a decade ago. By then my home rig was single booting windows.
So, given my history with debian, I started with ubuntu, only to realize I don’t like its current state. Next up was pop_os, because it’s heavily recommended for gaming. After some time I came to conclusion, that everything I know about linux on desktop is badly outdated, so I might as well go heavy and try arch. I chickened out, though, and went with manjaro. It’s actually quite nice, save for that hibernation.
Sorry you’re nvidia card is a nightmare because of Nvidia, not open source efforts
Surprisingly enough, nvidia drivers turned out to be the easy part.
Windows is way more shitty than Linux is difficult to learn, because it isn’t. You just need to understand how computers actually work to be able to use Linux.
It’s both fun and frustrating learning how to operate it.
This should be emblazoned somewhere in the initial Linux setup. I’m not in tech by trade, just a hobbyist nerd, and playing with Linux is like if a soulslike game were an OS. I had a terrible time figuring out how to get both monitors to work but eventually did and that felt like a huge win when it finally happened. Had an equally bad time trying to figure out how to install some game software but finally got that sorted and it felt like another big victory. But I still dual boot for now because some days I’m just not ready for the heartburn of dealing with my own ignorance in Linux
For me, Linux recreates the exhilaration of 1990s MsDOS: will this setting, that I really don’t understand, make my game work or just render my whole system unusable?
I really want to play this awesome new game called Syndicate…
What’s the worst that can happen? Reformat for a 4th time this week?
y/n?
I agree but with timeshift im able to be back up and running in 5 mins tops so I take more risks.
At some point Lemmy is going to track me down and murder me because I’m only running Linux on home automation and media servers, not my daily drivers.
Linux and a windows virtual machine with a dedicated nvme hard drive and GPU using PCI pass-through. Windows is boxed in but easily accessed when you need it, and the performance is 95% of native, or more. And because of the dedicated hard drive, you can still dual-boot it like normal if you want.
Also, I recommend installing windows 10 enterprise in the VM, minimal bloat.
Nawh
Meanwhile I’ve been trying to turn off all the news, bing smart AI, and BS popups in windows 11 on the computers where we clock in for weeks. No such luck.
My coworker opened edge when they added the new ai bullshit and thought the desktop was infected by a virus and started panicking.
They ship a version of Windows 10 without any of those included. It’s called Windows 10 LTSC (Long Term Support Channel).
Try installing that to never be bothered again.
I am not the network/sys admin so I can’t but I will pass it along to them. Thank you. What’s funny is we use windows ten for our work laptops because of some software and I don’t have this problem with those. Just the desktops where we clock in and out and do online training.
Sounds like a waste of time and effort lol
I’m the one who has to deal with these popup every time I login in order to clock in on time. Worth it to me, but perhaps not to everyone.
Get WinAero Tweaker. It’s a tool that applies dozens of registry and group policy settings to kill stuff like this. I ran it once ages ago and never have had to deal with stuff like your screenshot.
They said they can’t wait to graduate, so I’m assuming that means they are using a Windows computer from their school, and depending on what the CIT department’s policies are like there, WinAero may not accomplish much
If the computer is owned by a company or institution they shouldn’t see this anyway. They should either be using Microsoft work or school accounts or they should be using local accounts and the admin should set the required registry settings for them.
I think that they could be using their own computer but they have to use Windows to be able to use whatever Respondus is.
That would be nice. Our admins don’t bother with anything like this, but they also block me from fixing things.
Every time you open anything in office applications you get these small pop-ups
- See what changes others did?
- We added a new feature, do you want to see it?
Oh my god those popups for new features drive me insane. Yes teams, I know I can do account switching now because you’ve told me the last 10 times I opened the app.
Graduation unlocks all the white collar career paths, and your inevitable induction to enterprise IT spyware and power tripping local admins.
Better yet, become a power tripping admin.
Literally the only way my Windows PC is usable at work is with admin rights.
The policies at my work are really backwards IMO.
I have full administrative access to our prod hypervisor (including inside the VMs running on it)… but not my own dev machine 🤦♂️🤦♂️
And better pay… Hopefully
… Hide all notifications from OneDrive.
That shut up the ‘backup’ prompt.
It gets better if you backup and then get the prompt again after the next feature update of windows - because you get asked again and if you click on it will do a second backup which means that now all files are twice in your OneDrive, then three times, then four times, then… a reminder to upgrade OneDrive further as your storage is full.
I had to clean up this less more than once now for people and even witnessed it live after doing the upgrade for them sigh
Button’s greyed out in Settings
Once you graduate, this will be the least of your annoyances.
“Welcome to work. Here is your computer, your free corporate swag, and all the terrible enterprise software that will cripple your productivity.”
“When our overly aggressive security software inevitably locks you out next month, please let us know by filing a ticket at this IT portal. You will not have access to said portal once you’re locked out.”
“If you are remote, please do make sure that you know the phone number of at least one friendly co-worker, because you’ll need to interrupt their morning to beg them to scour the corporate intranet to find the last remaining operational phone number to contact the fully remote IT department, because we laid off your one local guy last month.”
Your IT department has phone numbers?!
Well, this was a few years ago…
Wait, are universities still using Respondus?
I feel for you. It was used a lot during the beginning of the pandemic, but I thought it was dropped by now.
Some professors kept the online exams for convenience (theirs and for the students depending on the type of exam), but did in presence in a university class, they dropped the recording but kept the lockdown environment so you cannot cheat even with your laptop
Ah, wow. So some exams are happening online, even though classes are in person! There goes a combination I had not thought about. It is annoying to still need Respondus though, even if I understand why
My professors use it for in-person tests. I just have a separate boot partition on my MacBook for it.
Interesting (and annoying). I imagined that most exams went back to the usual pen and paper or laboratory, but there were tests written on laptops and in class long before the pandemic. I had forgotten about those!
I got a BACK UP WITH ONE DRIVE window yesterday on my Windows 10 PC, but it had an option to remind me again in 1 year…
Probably, because I’m from the EU…
I use onedrive for school and work. I think it does its job.
OneDrive does work for many people. But not everyone wants it. They might have other tools, not have reliable internet, or just not want it. That’s doesn’t mean Windows should keep pestering.
I’m sure, it does…
But I prefer storing my personal data locally, e.g. in a nextcloud or Synology.
I’m using my private Windows PC only once a year anyway…
