While rebutting another post here on Lemmy, I ran into this. This says exactly what I want to say.
I am not a friend of Biden’s Administration. I think they drug their feet over a variety of things ranging from holding Trump and his goons accountable for January 6th through rulemaking on issues like OTC Birth Control and abortion rights, and yes, I think he’s too quick to please big business. But then I remember what the alternative is, and … well, disappointed in Biden or not, I’m voting for him. Because my wife is a Black bisexual goth woman, four strikes under Team Pepe’s tent. And I have my own strikes for marrying her as a White dude, and respecting her right to not have kids since she doesn’t want them is another strike against me. And I care about my Non-Christian, Gay, Transgender, and Minority friends, and will never willingly subject them to Team Pepe.
It’s telling that you left Gaza out of your comment. That is the #1 reason this president is facing a loss. If he would stop sending arms today, he would win in a landslide. You disingenuous shill. Edit: I was wrong to insult OP.
I was replying to OPs points directly. They didnt mention Gaza at all. What the fuck are you on about?
I misunderstood you. I apologize. I read the “your grievances” as being toward everyone hesitant to vote for him, rather than to OP’s specific issues. Big picture, I do think his issues are more to do with what I said in my response to my other interlocutor. I also think him bending the rail workers over the barrel is also a factor. Again, I apologize for insulting you.
We’re good, thanks for owning it.
I’ll refrain from going back and forth on whatabouts, which is an endless discussion. Every president in the history of the US, every ruler in the history of man, is going to have a long list of negatives that can be dug up. No solution works for everyone.
Thanks for the forgiveness. That’s not sarcasm. To be honest I’m conflicted about my own decision not to vote for him, but I genuinely do feel that not voting for him will move that party more toward not being a “slightly better than conservative” one. I had a conversation with a female coworker years ago revolving around the concept of “How convenient that you can ignore this presidency and not feel the effects, whereas we (Latina woman) cannot take that chance.” To me, it’s more advantageous to force the party to the left than to acquiesce and make them feel like they can get away with … Not giving a shit about anyone" Just my take and I’m honestly interested in your counterpoint. In any case, thanks for the conversation. Edit: autocorrect.
My response was to your final paragraph. People resent Biden because of Gaza and because of the idiotic way the Democratic brass look down their noses at, and gaslight, the American people. This administration has essentially tried to tell us things aren’t that bad when people who should have a solid middle class life are watching their credit card debt pile up. For another example, Hilary Clinton was on I think Seth Myers’ show and when he mentioned people being hesitant to vote for Biden again, her response was a condescending “get over yourselves”. That is the aspect of the top democratic leadership that not only liberals despise, but conservatives see as evidence of how the left is a bunch of elites with no regard for the common folk. There’s a better descriptor that I can’t think of at this early hour, but yeah. Those things are the cause of the resentment toward this administration, and I’d wager toward the Democratic party itself.
To be clear, I don’t think you’re wrong on your other points for the most part, but that last paragraph is missing the point IMO. Edit: I apologized.
… this the same American electorate in which under half of the Democratic Party is in favor of reducing aid to Israel?
It’s fucking insane how some people pretend that the US electorate agrees with all of their opinions, very conveniently.
The best time to completely cut off aid to Israel was 1998, the second best time was now.
I mean, I agree entirely, but “It would be both good policy and moral” is different from “This will definitely increase the support of the electorate towards the candidate, and overwhelmingly so at that!”
Personally what pisses me off is how we fund Israel’s single-payer healthcare program, but claim it would be wasteful spending to fund one of our own.
The US government will do literally anything, including funding universal healthcare for other countries, to avoid funding universal healthcare at home.
There’s a sick irony to it I’ve learned to enjoy, because the alternative is checking my medical bills.
Are you American? If so do you not have any connection to what’s going on in this country? A lot of representatives can’t go anywhere in public without being overwhelmed by protestors about this very issue.
Same energy as “Look how big Trump’s rallies are! There’s no way he could lose!”
Nice dodge there chief. I’m guessing either you’re not American or you don’t follow our politics too closely. And to be clear, I’m not a Trump fan. I don’t even consider myself a Democrat because I’m too far to the left to be on board with a lot of them.
How is it a dodge to point out that large protests do not necessarily signal majority support? Sorry that elementary-school level differentiation between “Looks bigger” and “Is bigger” is lost on you.
I’m an American and I follow politics very closely.
It was a dodge not answering whether you’re American. Where the hell are you getting your news if you don’t believe this is the main reason Biden is losing to Trump in a lot of states? The polls are pretty clear. And seeing some of the top Democrats flip (Pelosi was one I believe) on the Israel protests and/or Gaza is evidence enough for me.