On the front line in east and south Ukraine, the situation is increasingly desperate, with Russia outfiring Ukraine at a rate of three to one
  • natural_motions@lemmynsfw.com
    65·
    3 months ago

    There are attacks on info outlets as well, bots are mass reporting Ukranian youtube channels that have been reporting on the war, getting them perma banned despite Youtube basically acknowledging to the owners that it’s bot spam.

    If Ukraine lost it wouldn’t just be a massive blow to Ukraine itself, it would severely undermine the credibility of NATO countries and western allies generally.

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
      23·
      3 months ago

      The population of Ukraine is 38 million people. Putin would march every damn one of those Ukrainian civilians in as meat waves invading other countries and not care one damn.

    • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
      18·
      3 months ago

      Also, just because Ukraine loses the traditiobal war, doesn’t mean that the fighting will stop.
      Also also, what greater threat to european peace and stability is there than a bunch of former allies, who are battle-hardened, traumatized, right next to EU borders and are feeling betrayed by their ‘western partners’?
      A russia-funded network of right-wing parties, aimed at breaking up the european union, recently invigorated by their success of stopping a unified response to russia’s invasion.

      • msage@programming.dev
        4·
        3 months ago

        Fuck, why did you have to write it down so eloquently? Hungary is lost, Slovakia is lost, who is going to be next? Can Poland hold them off?

        • cybersandwich@lemmy.world
          3·
          3 months ago

          Any country not in NATO is at risk. Russia wouldn’t invade a NATO country. They’d get shit stomped and honestly probably have to resort to a nuclear weapon.

          I think the West would cut the head off the snake pretty quickly if Russia invaded a NATO country though.

    • ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world
      41·
      3 months ago

      Credibility? I just would rather not have to fight a land war in Europe after letting Russia finish its genocide of Ukraine

  • Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
    7311·
    3 months ago

    Almost like the west isnt funding them the way they are supposed to. To anyone in the US, this is why you need a democratic majority in the house. Russia has already called Ukraine a stepping stone multiple times, but US news is a awash with nothing but news on Gaza and israel despite the US policy on israel being unfortunately decided for 70 years now. So instead of pressuring our govt to act on Ukraine, we have protestors wasting their effort on the wrong genocide, one which the US was never going to stop, and is much smaller in scale. Its a dismal way of looking at things, but it is not incorrect.

    • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
      62·
      3 months ago

      Well I mean most Westerners have moved on and forgotten about Ukraine. They have a short attention span now it’s all Palestine and Ukraine can go fuck itself I guess

    • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
      2220·
      3 months ago

      But haven’t you heard? The US has already committed LITERAL BILLIONS to Ukraine, and what did it get us? Nothing! Just imagine if that money would’ve been spent here! We could have spent it on schools Some poor CEO could’ve had fat bonuses! Maybe we could’ve cancelled the medical debt of 100 people We could’ve spent more on covering up environmental damage without doing anything against the companies that caused that damage.

      I tell you, if we wouldn’t have spent that money on Ukraine, we could’ve medicare for all, student loan forgiveness, functioning infrastructure and a sane republican party. But because we spent those billions on Ukraine, sadly, we had to budget a little and got none of the above. If only we still had that money, all of our woes would be over!

      • Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
        263·
        3 months ago

        sigh

        We didnt spend billions on Ukraine. We donate old arms worth billions that were due to be phased out anyway to Ukraine. Crappy media reporting has really done on number on everyone who believes otherwise. And guess what? That weaponry was doing the trick. As predicted, giving Ukraine an absolute fuckload of our outdated shit is held russia back.

        But sure. Lets let Poland, Finland, and Lithuania fall next -___-