HA… you think that Libertarians are independent voters? American brand Libretarianism is ultra conservative and the very definition of “rules for thee not me”.
I was just thinking “rules for thee…” the other day when I almost got sideswiped by a F-250 with a big no-step-on-snek sticker on the tailgate. Was just sitting still in the middle lane at a light and this guy nearly hits me zipping by in the right turn lane. He, of course, doesn’t stop on red and just immediately turns right.
Couldn’t care less that his 10,000 lbs, lifted, moron dozor was sticking a foot and a half out of his lane.
Anywhoo, I know that’s a stupid, odd story. But that’s just an example of how these assholes live their lives. Everything, even the smallest and most common sense rules, like staying in your lane, are for suckers, not them.
this is honestly why I day dream about commuting in an Abrams tank during my commute. 6/10 times I’m being tailgated it’s a big ass truck. the other 4/10 are usually something like a Beamer that can’t fathom that… traffic happens.
65 tons of “Freedom” causes people to back off… I’d imagine… (the other slightly more realistic thought is getting a windshield-fluid tank and pump, setting a nozzle to squirt back and up. Load it with something like stink bombs.)
The issue with the latter approach is that in some regions of some states, you’re liable to get shot if you try something like that.
it’s like… republicans, but with weed.
Libertarians are just Republicans that don’t want to be labeled as a Republican.
And they have the intellectual and ethical maturity of kindergarteners, so they’ll eat him up.
It’s not surprising at all.
The Libertarian party has never been particularly libertarian (I discovered that when I briefly worked for them back in the '80s).
For a while there, through the 90s, the libertarian movement in the US was still relatively libertarian, which is to say, advocates for the liberty of each and all, and it was fairly common to see a distinction made between “libertarians” - advocates of the ideology - and “Libertarians” - followers of the party, who were pretty much just misled idealists and the opportunists who were misleading them.
That all started to change with 9/11 and the Bush presidency, as the movement as a whole started shifting toward right-wing authoritarianism and the party stopped pretending that it had ever been anything else.
Even then though, there was still a vestige of true libertarianism here and there.
That ended though when the GOP co-opted the Tea Party movement and transformed it from a series of protests against Bush’s Wall Street bailouts to a traveling right-wing carnival of hate. Virtually overnight, any pretense that US libertarians valued individual liberty (other than their own) entirely vanished, and the few remaining genuine advocates of liberty abandoned the movement.
At this point, the US libertarian movement as a whole has morphed entirely into an especially toxic version of right-wing authoritarianism, and I would fully expect them to support whoever seems most likely to let them shoot people. And that’s Trump.
naw. trump ‘speaking’ at any convention will never not be weird to me.
I can see Mitt Romney / Mike Pence “anti-Trump” GOP doing a hostile takeover of the existing Libertarian Party. the Libertarians have less than 2 million members according to the Wiki. Leave the Party of Lincoln to the MAGoos.
Trump has photos with Epstein. So, they might at least agree on lowering age of consent.
