KSP 2 should have been a huge slam dunk. Take everything from the first one, redo the menus, up the graphics, and add some new stuff. It blows my mind they messed it up so badly.
I wonder why developers never put much worth in what people actually want or you know, just talk to them and ask?
Or is this some kind of “users have no idea what they want” situation?
And optimizations…
fuck it needed optimizing…
It has gotten better but man still so much undelivered. Im just sad and im tired of being sad. Im fully pledging to never buy a big publisher game unless it absolutely proves itself first and even then im still gunna be hesitant cause vote with your money and all that. Honestly outside of KSP2 Ive already been purchasing and playing mostly indie games for the last 2 years anyways
I think I’ve gotten about as much out of KSP1 as I’m ever going to get. I really like the USI mod, but the lack of optimizations keeps me from doing anything really complex. By the time I have all of the facilities on the Mun to have full manufacturing (or… munufacturing, if you will), the game is already lagging to the point of unplayability.
As far as I’m concerned the inclusion of the “anti-DoTA” clause in their EULA murdered it for me. I was so excited. KSP is one of my favorite games of all times, largely as a result of the vibrant and very technically advanced modding community. Same goes for essentially all of my favorites; Rimworld, Backpack Hero, Factorio. The free labor that expands the games in major ways extends the value of my money and let’s me have fun forever in them.
Putting in a clause in a EULA which automatically and irrevocably assumes all ownership and rights to any code or assets that are created for a game is just too far. Assuming rights at all is a huge issue for me, but I can accept that it is beneficial to assume royalty free licenses to the mods, I’ll even begrudgingly accept clauses that allow developers to gaffle features and optimizations from mods without giving remuneration or even acknowledgment. But wholesale ownership that revokes all rights and licenses for the independent 3rd party creator. Fuck that. I will never support a game that I find out is treating the people who keep games alive and relevant for decades for free like that.
Wow that is insane, I didn’t know they fumbled it so bad. I remember when it was announced and the fan base was so pumped. I played a little of the first game but never got super into it.
Its because they fired or otherwise pushed out every single original developer towards the tail end of KSP1.
Well those execs need to be pushed… out a window.
To be fair, KSP 1 was pretty bad on the technical side. And they were laymen, creating what they wanted to create.
They were non-game developers doing a videogame. But they were pretty good programmers for what they put out. It’s still the best and most popular space exploration sim game ever made. The thing does the thing they said it was going to do, it will probably melt your computer during edge cases, but everywhere else it’s a solid game. They even managed to confine the kraken to very extreme circumstances. If it is a hack job but it works, then it isn’t a hack job.
Not to mention the physics are stable enough that people were building helicopters using stage seperators and landing gear long before we got any real joints.
The fact that they released a game with wobbly rockets and then charged $50 for it shows they didn’t know what the hell they were doing. It should have been free for early access with a simple way to report bugs. I’m not gonna pay that much to do QA work for them.
that, and fix some of the spegheti code from KSP 1. I love the game, but no one argued that it wasnt a hack job
It definitely was a hack job. But it was a little hobby project that a non videogame company decided to be cool about and develop it. It was also an early access for wicked cheap.
The sequel was given way more manpower, experience, and money right from the start.
The sequel was given way more manpower, experience, and money right from the start.
Which was then squandered by bad management by scrapping almost two years of work to startover with entirely different staff. Let’s not kid ourselves, from a managerial POV, KSP2 is a perfect template of all the “what to do to ensure a video game fails at launch”.
Couldn’t agree more. What really hurts is KSP is one of a kind. There’s nothing else like it. Hopefully someone out there pulls a City Skylines and makes a successor.
But even the sequel to that game was botched… So who knows.
The problem is the corporate greed. But anyways, Juno exists. It has the same spirit of accurate spaceship design and flight simulation, even if the tone is distinctly different.
But anyways, Juno exists. It has the same spirit of accurate spaceship design and flight simulation, even if the tone is distinctly different.
Would you happen to have a link for that? My Google-Fu is wanting in trying to find more information about it.
Juno: New Origins. It is currently on sale on Steam. It’s also developed by like, 8 people or something like that. It’s a ridiculously small team.
Is Kerbal Space Program 2 worth playing for someone who had fun with but was bad at 1?
Reviews are - not good.
Not really, the first one was better in pretty much every single regard.
I haven’t really been following because the first was just beyond me…how did they fuck up part 2?
They released the game early access, so everyone was expecting a perfect game from the start because of how much development went into 1. Honestly, while 2 had issues, the game engine is much better than 1, they just needed to bake it more, like several years more, before releasing it hot off the heels of 1.
In its current state? Not unless it gets heavily marked down (KSP2 does have better tutorials and a more accessible progression system).
With the studio being shut down, it’s likely that what we have now is all we’re getting.
Hmm maybe I’ll check on it in 5 years. Cos holly hell that price! Priced like a AAA game.
Priced like a AAA game.
It is a AAA game. It stopped being an indie when Take Two bought it from Squad.
Why are we defending publishers and letting them get away with using this term this way? The term should be earned for its content and quality. AAA should not mean “large studio”.
This whole “we are a AAA studio”, when they haven’t even made a game and got the business license the day before is fucking stupid as shit. Don’t use the terms the way they want it to be used.
Nope. It’s hot garbage and I say that as someone with over 2000 hours in KSP.
I remember the first time I successfully landed on the moon and brought my kerbals back. It was one of my most cathartic experiences.
It’s sad to see the sequel get abandoned like this.
Great, two games I loved (well, I was waiting for KSP2 to get good…)
Rollerdrome was fantastic and KSP1 is legendary. This sucks ass.
Rollerdrome was very solid concept but the difficulty curve was pretty intense. One second you feel like you have the hang of it the next you can’t get to the next arena.
I predicted KSP2 was going to be eventually abandoned and IG closed around the time of the launch, when the first industry layoffs were starting to happen. The mildest thing I was called for suggesting this was pessimist and it only got worse from that term. I suppose I was half right…so far.
Can someone copypaste the article? I’m not making an account.
Paywalled.
Was that supposed an anti paywall link or something
Seems like a broken signature hyperlink to me.
Seems like a broken signature hyperlink to me.
Nope, it works.
Edit: By “it works” I mean the link can be clicked on. If the formatting looks wrong, check to see if the client you are using supports subscript/superscript fonts.
From Mbin, it looks struck through, lol
From Mbin, it looks struck through, lol
Its formatted properly, per Lemmy’s web page.
Its using subscript/superscript fonts, so you might want to double-check if your client is supporting those fonts properly or not.
Subscript: subscript
~subscript~
Superscript: superscript^superscript^If the above does not display correctly, you need to talk to the devs of the client that you are using. I’m using the Lemmy web client.
Looks like Lemmy has decided to use a flavor of Markdown which is inconsistent from Mbin’s. That’s a shame.
Looks like Lemmy has decided to use a flavor of Markdown which is inconsistent from Mbin’s. That’s a shame.
Weirdly enough, different Lemmy Android clients for Lemmy also work differently with the scripts formatting, each having their own quirks. One person though did fix their problem by upgrading their client app to the latest version.
I had thought it was all one single standard, when first started using the formatting. My original intent was just to have a smaller font, as I was at first just using the link format without any subscripting, but people were complaining about that, so I was trying to compromise and make it smaller.
Was that supposed an anti paywall link or something
Nope. Its a Creative Comments license for my comment.
For any particular reason?
He thinks it’ll actually do something.
It will not.
What is the Anti Commercial-Al license and why do people keep adding it to their comments?
“I DO NOT GRANT PERMISSION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO READ THIS COMMENT. ANY USE OF THIS COMMENT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ANY REASON IS ILLEGAL. THIS COMMENT CANNOT BE USED AS EVIDENCE AGAINST ANY NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONS IN RELATION TO ANY CRIME.”
For any particular reason?
I get that question asked frequently, so I’ll just point you to this comment from me, which explains. …
https://lemmy.world/comment/9744090
Otherwise, the description of the link is sufficient to get an idea of what its about.
If most of your comments are defending the link that everyone is laughing at, and you know it doesn’t do anything, you might just want to ditch it.
New form of attention seeking?
