House Speaker Mike Johnson describes himself as a Christian before anything else. He has said his “faith informs everything I do.” He has told people curious about his views to “pick up a Bible.” His wife reportedly runs a counseling service whose operating agreement, which he himself notarized, states, “We believe and the Bible teaches that any form of sexual immorality, such as adultery…is sinful and offensive to God.” He has said he and his son use a software program called Covenant Eyes to ensure neither is looking at porn.

Given all this, you may think that Johnson would not be comfortable showing up to a criminal trial to defend a guy who allegedly had an affair with an adult film star (according to the adult film star anyway, though Trump denies it), paid her to stay quiet about the alleged affair, and then was accused of covering up said payment. But you would think wrong!

On Tuesday, Johnson attended Donald Trump’s hush money trial in Manhattan, where—prior to the proceedings getting underway—the congressional leader nodded approvingly at Trump from behind a metal barrier, like a groupie at his favorite band’s concert.

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    and is known to have shitloads of other affairs, and has been determined by a court to be a rapist.

    Oh also he’s a liar, a thief, a cheat. He’s corrupt, he doesn’t pay taxes or other bills and is a fucking traitor and oathbreaker.

    also according to Mike’s scriptures… Trump is a mass murderer. (the scriptures make it clear that murder is the only of the ten commandants that could be broken by inaction. for example, the parable of the good Samaritan, the reason that parable was offensive was that the two who did nothing both ‘pillars of the community’ types- a prominent and respected business man, and a priest- but they committed murder by not providing aid they could provide where the “dirty” Samaritan did.) (edit just to clarify, COVID trump could have saved millions of lives by countering the antivax narrative. or by encouraging masking. Or lockdowns. or just shutting the fuck up. he did not, and who knows how many people died as a result. biblically, Trump is a mass murderer.)

    but details.

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      Apologetics is an amazing thing! You’ll never guess how that one thing doesn’t mean what you think it means, and I’m the sole authority to tell you why!

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        Yeah, self made man Obama who never looked at another woman after he married is a tool of Satan, and the guy who embodies all Seven Deadly Sins is the finest man alive.

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          Imagine the year is 2012. Many Christians are taking their views door to door, urging you to vote for the Christian candidate, Mr. Mormon Mitt Romney, and not the Muslim, professing Christian Barack Obama. One of them goes to church. The other got married in ceremonial underwear. But one is black and the other is white.

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            Someone said that they think the Mayans were right and the world did end in 2012. It’s just sputtering along on momentum.

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      I wish we didn’t have to make the same brain-dead decisions. I surely don’t respect it any.

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      I was gonna say this was on par for the modern Christianity as we know it. I don’t think death threats are very Christian either but it seems that’s been par for the course now.

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    I wonder if the porn monitoring app he shares with his son gave a little beep today?

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    See? How hard was it to make a title that was just the facts?

    See how easy that was? CNN, NPR, AP, take notes.

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        @Numenor: Except that the trial is not about if Trump had sex with a porn star

        I mean. It is, actually. Do you just not know jack shit or are you just talking shit?

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          The trial literally isn’t about if Trump had sex with a porn star; in fact, it basically presupposes that he did.

          The trial is about if he illegally covered up the hush money he paid her afterwards

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            Okay. Since you took the bait: Do you just not know jack shit or are you just talking shit?

            Because you are talking like you actually don’t know jack shit.

            Tell me, what are the arguments of Trumps defense?

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              Mostly specious, dissembling, goalpost-shifting, mendacious, and virulent, like their client.

              (Sorry, you just walked into that with the baited question.)

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    The bible is not univocal. So saying “pick up a bible” to understand his views perhaps includes killing those who wear mixed fabrics and giving women instructions for abortions. Maybe it also includes killing his firstborn son whenever the voices say he should. Or maybe he doesn’t think those parts mean what they say, but other parts do?

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      Correct. If you actually read the bible you know that all these people are just making it up as they go along. You will find some quote that supports whatever you’re trying to say and you’ll find some quotes for the opposite too.

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    Accused of cheating on his wife…? Seriously? This is the best they could come up with? How about:

    “Devout Christian Mike Johnson Shows Up to Hush Money Trial to Defend the Poster Child for the Seven Deadly Sins

    • Lust: “I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait,” Trump said. “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”

    • Gluttony: Trump’s favorite McDonald’s order: two Big Macs, two Filet-O-Fishes, and a large chocolate milkshake.

    • Greed: Do we really need examples?

    • Sloth: Trump ascribes to what has been described as the “battery” theory of, um, life force. Evan Osnos, in a profile of Trump in the New Yorker a few years back, described it thusly: “Other than golf, he considers exercise misguided, arguing that a person, like a battery, is born with a finite amount of energy.”

    • Wrath: “Lyin’ Cassidy said that I threw my lunch at the wall,” Trump wrote on his social network, Truth Social. “I actually threw it at Rudy Giuliani, and he ducked.”

    • Envy: We have a new ailment that has come onto the political scene and that is presidential jealousy. I don’t ever remember a current president taking constant and ongoing digs at a former president. Now, I can say that I have seen it. Almost since day one, Donald Trump has made disparaging and disrespectful remarks about Barack Obama.

    • Pride: Do we need examples? The man puts his name in gold letters on everything he touches.

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    I can see you haven’t met many christians if you think this is hypocritical behavior.

    Ghandi ? I like your Christ, you Christians are so unlike him.

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          It’s still important to call out the hypocrisy, even if it is their normal modus operandi. Ad nauseatum.

          Liars and conmen need to be exposed again and again until the most misinformed and thickest victim finally gets it.

          Trump has proven that this will take until the end of time but it is still worth it. If you save one victim per bunch of Trumpists it’s worth it.

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    If Trump weren’t such an existential threat to our country, I’d be enjoying all his republican friends debasing themselves publicly in very humiliating situations.

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    All Christians are hypocrites, it’s simply not possible to follow the letter of the Bible because it’s self contradictory, so the only way to be Christian is to be a hypocrite.
    But even among religious/Christian hypocrites, Mike Johnson is a particularly bad one. So bad it’s borderline insanity.

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    There is a world of difference between “he didn’t do it” and “so what if he did it?” and opened the link aiming to figure out which of these two kinds of defenses Johnson was trying to make - but his approach was not even relevant enough to the actual issue for that distinction to be meaningful.

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    Not accused. I thought the sex was already a forgone conclusion, which is why this is about the illegal payoff for her to keep it quiet

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      Defense tried to say that it never happened, which opened the door to Stormy telling the jury about what was effectively a rape by the defendant. They probably didn’t want to be arguing these facts, but that’s where they ended up!

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        They were put in a box by Trump’s refusal to admit any guilt, even for things that are not crimes.

        Any normal defense attorney would admit the fact that their client cheated on their wife and tried to cover it up. Those are not illegal, and are pretty defamatory, so you can have the judge exclude any testimony about the act.

        Then it’s just a boring documents case. The jury doesn’t pay as much attention when the evidence is less interesting, so the prosecution’s case seems weaker.

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        Stormy came out a few years ago though and admitted they never had sex. She also said that she wasn’t a victim and wasn’t a part of the “me too” crowd. If you’re watching the MSM though, you probably don’t know about that

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          Damn, she must have crumbled when Trump’s lawyers brought that up when cross-examining her. As far as the jury is concerned, that would be game over for the prosecution.

          Trump’s lawyers did bring that up, didn’t they?

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          Or that didn’t happen and you think it did because you listen to and believe lying liars who lie.

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          That’s not at all what the Maher article says. She said she wasn’t coerced, not that they didn’t have sex. It’s also not the point of the trial.

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            I never said that it was Mahr she said she didn’t have sex to. Word for word, this is the letter she signed in 2018.

            To Whom It May Concern:
            
            Over the past few weeks I have been asked countless times to comment on reports of an alleged sexual relationship I had with Donald Trump many, many, many years ago.
            
            The fact of the matter is that each party to this alleged affair denied its existence in 2006, 20011, 2016, 2017 and now again in 2018. I am not denying this affair because I was paid “hush money” as has been reported in overseas owned tabloids. I am denying this affair because it never happened. 
            
            I will have no further comment on this matter. Please feel free to check me out on Instagram at @thestormydaniels.
            
            Thank you,
            
            Stormy Daniels
            
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      It’s about falsifying business records although they still haven’t said what the actual crime was and Trump has always denied the sex allegations. Stormy even lost a defamation case against Trump and owes him 500k. The MSM tries to get you to think they slept together though

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        How do you think they just skipped the parts where they would state the actual alleged crimes? They in fact didn’t skip that part.

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            It’s falsifying business records, which becomes a felony when combined with it being a campaign finance violation.

            Not as strong of a case as the docs one but it is a crime.

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              Right, that’s why the FEC and Braggs office declined to prosecute the case already, and then wouldn’t ya know, campaign season rolls around and all the sudden it’s being prosecuted. I’m just not that naive. I see it for what it is although I do expect a guilty verdict to come and then to get overturned on appeal

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          So what? Even if he did falsify them (which they failed to prove) statute of limitations already ran up. They’re trying to claim he falsified them to influence the outcome of the election but that’s impossible considering that they weren’t labeled as a legal expense until after the election was over. Facts matter