Remember: no Republicans are arguing Trump didn’t break the law.
They’re arguing he shouldn’t be punished for it.
They’re arguing he shouldn’t be punished for it
They are really arguing that all Republicans shouldn’t be punished but if you aren’t in the club you get the full blast of the law.
law blast
It’s what justice craves.
Yea I think he has to be found guilty of the crime to be pardoned, right?
No. Nixon was never charged, but he was pardoned.
I think you have to admit guilt? Which is bullshit because the purpose of a pardon isnt to get guilty people off but to act as a check against judicial power. I’m not sure though.
Nope.
A pardon stops all punishment from the judicial system. You don’t have to plead guilty and criminal proceedings stop. A pardon further undoes any legal handicap (for example, you can own firearms again).
That said, if you accept a pardon you can’t plead the fifth when it comes to details related to the crime you’ve committed.
There’s also a commutation, which is weaker than a pardon. Instead of having the crime fully forgiven you are simply let out of jail with the understanding you committed the crime and must face follow up consequences (like not being able to own firearms).
Finally, there are also conditional pardons. Those are ones where the president could impose a “you must plead guilty” style rule before the pardon can be applied. He could also apply a rule that says “you must perform 10 jumping jacks”.
Pardon powers are some of the most broad we have in the US.
About the only limitation is you can’t pardon for future crimes.
About the only limitation is you can’t pardon for future crimes.
Yeah, you really want Roberts’ SCOTUS to rule on that?
Roberts’
Damnit, that’s what I typed but I guess it got autocorrected. Thanks!
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Maybe, maybe not
Thank you.
I think you’re remembering some instance where a pardon can expose the recipient to civil liability. Or at least it was theorized it might…
Bannon, stone or one of them.
Bruh I don’t know what I remember
Ford was, based on the behavior of the Reagan, W Bush, and Trump administrations, entirely wrong to pardon Nixon. There is no reason to repeat his mistake.
And there ya go groveling to your orange master, Romney. What a spineless bitch.
Well, not that we needed one, but I really appreciate you giving us a reminder for why we should never ever make you president, Mittens. It’s very thoughtful of you.
Don’t worry, at some point he’ll say one normal thing and people will remark on how he’s so reasonable compared to the others.
It is true, though. If he were to run for president, he’d be the best candidate the Republican party has put forward in 2 decades. And he’s still a gigantic piece of shit.
The smallest coil of shit turned out onto the chests of voters in decades!
You certainly have a way with words, my friend.
Flame wars must be, while we defend our lives against a butthole who would devour all; but I do not love the quip for its sharpness, nor the meme for its oddly specific irony, nor the troll for his lulz; I love only that which they defend
Maybe the ex-president shouldn’t have been such a criminal, Mitt.
Mitt Romney is an idiot
Just when you thought he wasn’t half bad.
Anybody who thought that was half stupid.
And this guy is supposed to be the “moderate” GOP. Crooks and liars all the way down their bones.
Biden can’t pardon state crimes.
You didn’t even run, bitch.
Welcome to Lemmy, new account!
Wow, this is an impressively stupid take.
Shut up romney.
Fuck off and die
All I did was post an article, you big meanie
Can’t take the snivelling, manipulative, lying scumbag out of the republican, I guess.
To be fair, he’s probably being too honest with this one
What? Anyway, that would never happen.
Yeah, who just pardons a criminal ex-presi- wait… never mind.
