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    Imagine you are disabled and only have the use of one finger.

    How do you press “Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V”?

    Stickykeys allows you to use your one functioning finger to press Ctrl then release it, then press C and release it, and you’ll have done the equivalent of pressing both at the same time.

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        yeah, the fact that we all know if it but none of us knew what it did is still kind of a failure. if the pop up defined sticky keys it might actually have seen some use in everyday life. like i might actually start using that when I’m on the phone at work and need to do stuff on the computer at the same time. assuming it’s still easily accessible in Windows 11.

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    It allows users to press keys like Shift, Ctrl, Alt, or the Windows key one at a time, rather than holding them down while pressing another key.

    And here is my obligatory; “just use linux”.

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      Also if you keep pressing shift repeatedly after the sticky keys window appears, it will eventually disappear and disable the prompt alltoghether.

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        I somehow thought it was a Windows thing, but being an accessability feature of course isn’t.

        I was also joking because it seems to be 90% of our comments to suggest using linux😅

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    It always annoyed me because every month or so, after getting the pop up and disabling it, it would just show up again

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      Yea that is true, but you’re not answering op’s question.

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      I really think it’s less “I don’t understand and hate this accessibility feature” than “why is my computer suddenly interrupting what I’m doing to announce a feature I don’t need?” The press-5-times thing is the problem. Why would a mobility-limited person even think that was how you turn it on, rather than say… knowing where in the Config panel it is, or turning it on during the computer’s initial setup?

      Computers also don’t default to having a screen reader going, TVs don’t usually default to having captions turned on (I’d personally love this being the norm, haha). It’s a strange option to suddenly activate due to an arcane key combo. It’d be like turning on the magnifier because you quad-clicked on something.

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        Why would a mobility-limited person even think that was how you turn it on?

        Because it is a standard PC feature codified by ISO, present in all computers since 1994 that was specifically required by organizations for the rights of people with disabilities who had to fight the tech giants for it based on the direct feedback from people with disabilities, and sometimes was implemented in secrecy by rogue developers who believed on it.

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          I feel like you’re being deliberately rude and not reading what I said now. First off, thanks for dismissively passing me a link I need to pay $237 to read, no thanks ISO, but also I bet it doesn’t say you must enable sticky keys by pressing the key 5 times.

          I know this because Macs don’t have this terrible shortcut enabled. You just turn sticky keys on in the Accessibility options. I also know this because the other article you posted tells the story of Gregg Vanderheiden, who wrote the first sticky keys driver in assembly and used the 5-press as a hack to signal for his driver to take over. Once the feature was officially implemented, the 5-press should no longer have been needed as a trigger.

          And in fact, the “rogue developer” (Ed Tecot) who bravely worked on accessibility features from further down in the backlog for the Mac didn’t implement the 5-press either. And that article specifically calls out Microsoft, by the original designer, for having a bad shortcut!

          It’s turned off by default on Macs—as the inventors intended. “You want sticky keys turned off by default because it’s just going to annoy them,” shared Vanderheiden in the call. “It doesn’t help you, it doesn’t help them, it doesn’t help the disability community.” But somehow, the wires got crossed with Windows, and to this day it’s enabled by default, an accidental 5-Shift-press away from discovery.

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            You asked “Why would a mobility-limited person even think that was how you turn it on?”

            They know because they were the ones who asked for it. Just like the first thing a person learning to use computers is what the mouse clics does, the first thing a person with disabilities learn when dealing with computers is what the disabilities functions are, they are widely documented. The very popup that MS shows up has an extensive explanation of what it is and link to disable it immediately.

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    You guys are missing the true point of sticky keys:

    Admin console without admin password.

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        It’s a well known exploit on Windows:

        • delete sethc.exe (sticky keys executable) from the system32 directory.
        • replace it with a copy of cmd.exe (name it sethc.exe)
        • reboot to login screen.
        • shift 5 times, and you get a command prompt with administrator privileges

        Now, you can change all the passwords on the system from the login screen.

        Last I checked, it still works, and it’s been around since xp days.

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            Just access to the hard drive. A bootable Linux USB could do that. I think you can get there through some obscure way with windows installation media as well.

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      The windows key has a lot of uses. I got a keyboard that has a physical toggle to turn the windows key on and off so I can switch between work mode (on) and gaming mode (off) easily.

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      The windows key is so super useful though. Not just for quickly starting or finding shit without using the mouse, but also for moving windows around, maximizing them, making them take up exactly half of your screen, locking your screen, etc.

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        I am very confused why anyone would disable the super/command key. Ever since moving to linux its become the most used key on my entire board.

        Admittedly i am using a shortcut heavy tillable win manager. Blown away how fun it is to operate a pc keyboard only. (Overspendinging on nice keyboard switches also helps)

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          The Windows key as part of a combination is great. It’s an extra modifier key.

          The Windows key by itself is terrible because it immediately steals focus from the current application and can’t be disabled without something like AutoHotkey.

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            And it was even worse back in the day when computers barely had any RAM and basically relied completely on the swap file to do multitasking. You’d be in a game, accidentally hit the windows key, then you’d have to wait like a full minute or more for it to swap your game memory out so it could swap your other desktop apps back in, only to then have to wait again for it to swap that stuff back out to get back into the game. And all of this was happening on a hard drive.

            And during this whole process, there was a moderate chance that individual applications or your entire system would crash.

            Even the mode change for the display would take more time.

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          My greatest trick in computer class was memorizing all the keyboard shortcuts and never using the garbage ball mouse.

          Navigating a computer just by keyboard almost feels like magic still to some people and it’s fun to rotate people’s entire screens.

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            Just turning the screen upside down is a classic and works very fast If you know the shortcut, but my favorite was always:

            1. taking a screenshot of the desktop
            2. flipping that screenshot upside down
            3. disabling desktop symbols
            4. setting the taskbar to auto hide
            5. using the flipped screenshot as desktop background
            6. and finally flipping the screen.

            Results in a normal looking desktop with an upside down cursor that behaves weirdly

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      I can hear the little song he was humming before bursting out of there